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 Post subject: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:22 pm 
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Congrats to him on dethroning the real life Ivan Drago. Height, reach, speed and unorthodox boxing moves/angles being the key to beating the effective efficient muscly boxing robot that is Wladimar Klitschko.

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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:46 pm 
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Shame about the whole comparing gay people to paedophiles thing. Hope he loses his next one.


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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:16 pm 
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Follows from his strict interpretation of his religion. Klitschko rematch is next, doubt he will lose that unless Klitschko completely changes his style to be the busier smaller fighter which would be a totally new style for him. After that Vitali will come out of retirement to be his next opponent, Fury has already called him out, and that fight would be more difficult for Fury as Vitali is harder than his brother and could rough Fury up and wear him down. Historically Wladimar and Vitali have always taken revenge on anyone beating either brother, Sanders took a right beating from Vitali for knocking Wladimar out and Wladimar beat up Byrd after he beat Vitali. I can't see Fury fighting a non-Klitschko until 2017 and that will probably be Joshua who Fury has already mentioned as being in his future.

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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:43 pm 
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Vitali isn't coming out of retirement. It will be 4 yrs since Vitali has had a fight by the time of the rematch he's far to involved politically now as the mayor of Kiev. I don't actually think there will be a rematch and Wlad announces his retirement. His Twitter feed doesn't read of a man who thinks he'll be champion again.


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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:51 pm 
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Vitali was never knocked down, his only two losses were on injuries and he frightened Lewis all the way into permanent retirement, he will fancy his chances even now against Fury who doesn't have the most solid of chins. He was also at the fight and will be there at the rematch in his brother's corner again so he still has a keen interest in the division.

http://www.skysports.com/klitschko-vs-f ... ays-vitali
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/ty ... ko-6926399

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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:37 pm 
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Without the gay-paedo chat I think he might have had a chance at BBC Sports Personality of the Year. I always think it's useful to have your success close to the time when it's decided.


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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:32 pm 
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Mike Tyson was very popular despite being a natural thug and Fury is hardly better in that respect at least in his language if not his deeds ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... oxing.html

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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:24 am 
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mas wrote:
Vitali was never knocked down, his only two losses were on injuries and he frightened Lewis all the way into permanent retirement, he will fancy his chances even now against Fury who doesn't have the most solid of chins. He was also at the fight and will be there at the rematch in his brother's corner again so he still has a keen interest in the division.

http://www.skysports.com/klitschko-vs-f ... ays-vitali
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/ty ... ko-6926399


Vitali was an absolute beast - that fight with Lewis is one of the best scraps in boxing I've ever seen, particularly in the usually slow and tentative heavyweight division. But he's also now 44, not fought in years and pursuing a political career. I doubt he'd have much motiviation to attempt a comeback against Fury, and even if he did I doubt he'd have the capability to do much.

I agree in his prime he would absolutely destroy Fury, but his prime was a long time ago. Vitali was always the much more 'frightening' fighter for me, with Wladimir a more technical boxer.

Wlad didn't look his usual self that is true, but it will be interesting to see if they give any reason behind that which they are hinting at. To me it just looked like an aging boxer, used to fighting smaller guys suddenly looking a bit lost when faced against a bigger guy who boxed smart.


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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:52 am 
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Ennis wrote:
To me it just looked like an aging boxer, used to fighting smaller guys suddenly looking a bit lost when faced against a bigger guy who boxed smart.

That's how it looked to me too and I thought that's how it might go down before the fight but Fury's 4/1 odds were not long enough for me to place a wager beforehand ;-). As long as Fury does not get tagged and knocked out he could be champ for some time, there is some truth to him claiming that he has a similarity to Ali in style.

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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:15 pm 
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A better option would have been to have backed him for Sports Personality of the Year. Won't win, but was 80/1 before the fight and around 5/1 now. Could have instantly laid off for a huge profit of ~10/1 original stake


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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:20 pm 
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I backed him at 2/1 for a decent amount at the end of the 10th round had him up by more than 2 and Wlad requiring the knock out couldn't believe he was still 2/1


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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:36 pm 
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pubpokerplayer wrote:
I backed him at 2/1 for a decent amount at the end of the 10th round had him up by more than 2 and Wlad requiring the knock out couldn't believe he was still 2/1


I think the concern was home judges rather than them not realising Fury was 'winning'.


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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
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Wladimir Klitschko will attempt to regain his world heavyweight titles by taking up his option for a rematch with new champion Tyson Fury next year. "Failure is not an option," said Klitschko, 39, on his prospects of winning back his titles. "I was really frustrated directly after the fight, but after some short nights, I now know that I am much better than my performance on Saturday. "I couldn't show much full potential at any time. This is what I want to change in the rematch, and I will."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/34985570
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/34983409

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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:42 pm 
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Fury beat Klitschko last week but has already been warned that he will be stripped of the IBF title if he does not face mandatory challenger Vyacheslav Glazkov

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 60406.html

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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:44 pm 
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More ammunition for the Fury haters, rampant old-fashioned overt sexism ;-)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/ty ... nt-6953509

"But I believe a woman's best place is in the kitchen and on her back, that's my personal belief. Making me a good cup of tea, that's what I believe."

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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:55 am 
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mas wrote:
More ammunition for the Fury haters, rampant old-fashioned overt sexism ;-)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/ty ... nt-6953509

"But I believe a woman's best place is in the kitchen and on her back, that's my personal belief. Making me a good cup of tea, that's what I believe."


I know some of his more homophobic stuff really isn't on, but given the overall context of that statement I got the impression that was joking. I can't remember the exact wording but I got the impression he started out fairly respectfullly then decided half way through he was going to take the p*ss.


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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:56 am 
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Well that lasted long

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/35047606


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 Post subject: Re: Tyson Fury
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:14 pm 
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Glazkov is not a big name although a capable fighter and Fury still has WBA/IBO/RING belts. Klitschko rematch and then Wilder WBC unification match make much more financial sense. Fury would box Glazkov ears off for 12 rounds and would be boring to watch as he is 6" shorter with 9" less reach so unless he caught Fury would be on the receiving end for most of the match.

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