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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:28 pm 
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Hello! Simon van Velthooven, who is a cyclist, has joined the team.

This is either interesting or nuts.


The whole thread is about pedal grinders. There's a photo in the opening post of them pedalling. Do you think they'd sign up a table tennis player?


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The defending champions, not wanting to leave anything to chance, also worked with BMW to integrate a steering system derived from touring car racing. Applying the semi-automated systems designed for automotive applications, the engineers made a yacht that responds to a turn of the wheel nearly instantaneously—instead of taking two seconds.



f**k me, don't show them one of these, then!


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A rudder takes time to bite and turn the boat. Ever tried changing directions in a kayak quickly?



What a load of rubbish.
I'll give you some boats may take time to turn, but very few would take 2 seconds before responding.
Most boats I've driven/sailed have been very responsive to the tiller/wheel, and even kayaks are easy to turn.
Probably the hardest boat to turn would be those with big, long keels, like this.

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The only one that i can remember being as unresponsive as mentioned was steered by, wait for it... hydraulics.

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Despite the apperance, it wasn't as big a choke as you think. Jimmy Spithill is/was a superior to Dean Barker. Oracle were on the verge of abandoning a foiling cat but after observing TNZ's cat when they were testing made some changes and stuck with the concept. That concept was developed right through and up until the AC. Remember the lay day that they took and then came out the next day with a vastly faster boat? Well, that was down to modifications they were constantly making and learning how to sail the foiling cat. They just pulled a massive rabbit out of a hat. But of course there are other factors to consider like wind and water conditions - different boats are set up for different conditions, it's a risk they take in design. And crew. Oracle definitely had a better skipper.


If he is so fucking good, how come he lost so many races to start with in the last America's Cup?


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Slightly older news, but they achieved this

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They have been flying around mock courses in Auckland and, yes, they have achieved the "holy grail" of completing the circuit without getting their hulls wet.


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globus wrote:
Hello! Simon van Velthooven, who is a cyclist, has joined the team.

This is either interesting or nuts.


The whole thread is about pedal grinders. There's a photo in the opening post of them pedalling. Do you think they'd sign up a table tennis player?

Of course not. The interest is that this is getting very serious on blokes with thighs.

In my day, they needed biceps, triceps and anything north of the waistline.

This is quite an interesting turn of events. Untried, as yet, in competition.

I'm fascinated.


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Despite the apperance, it wasn't as big a choke as you think. Jimmy Spithill is/was a superior to Dean Barker. Oracle were on the verge of abandoning a foiling cat but after observing TNZ's cat when they were testing made some changes and stuck with the concept. That concept was developed right through and up until the AC. Remember the lay day that they took and then came out the next day with a vastly faster boat? Well, that was down to modifications they were constantly making and learning how to sail the foiling cat. They just pulled a massive rabbit out of a hat. But of course there are other factors to consider like wind and water conditions - different boats are set up for different conditions, it's a risk they take in design. And crew. Oracle definitely had a better skipper.


If he is so fucking good, how come he lost so many races to start with in the last America's Cup?

Because TNZ had a superior boat. Oracle's was still developing while they learned to sail it. Spithill is a superior sailor to Dead Barker. I never said he was the best ever or even the best in the world. Barker wasnt even the best sailor in the country as an amateur, he never went to the Olympics and has a modest match racing career.

Now stop being a silly plum and talking shit.


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Incidentally the Halberg Rassy is built like the proverbial. Long keel, goes well in the rough but an absolute sod to turn up or down-wind.

I was "working" for the owner (in other words, not skipper) and we had a near disaster off Norway.

Why do yachts have a metallic attraction to buoys?

We missed a big one by inches. He seemed transfixed. I just grabbed the wheel and it all got a bit embarrassing.

I was not prepared to down in the sea up there, it was freezing!

All was not lost. When we got to Trondheim friendship was restored. With the usual. (alcohol.)

There's never a dull moment on a yacht.

Ålesund is where the Management's brother's former wife lives. It's lovely up there.

If only the Norwegians played Rugby!


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globus wrote:
Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote:
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Hello! Simon van Velthooven, who is a cyclist, has joined the team.

This is either interesting or nuts.


The whole thread is about pedal grinders. There's a photo in the opening post of them pedalling. Do you think they'd sign up a table tennis player?

Of course not. The interest is that this is getting very serious on blokes with thighs.

In my day, they needed biceps, triceps and anything north of the waistline.

This is quite an interesting turn of events. Untried, as yet, in competition.

I'm fascinated.

It's untried bringing a cyclist over, but not unique bringing someone in from another sport. Team New Zealand brought Rob Waddell (an Olympic gold medal winning rower) in as a grinder a few cups ago. The method has changed so bringing someone in with a cycling background makes sense.


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Most athletes can play many sports. It's in their genes and nature.

The next thing we will get is a parachutist that will trim the spinnaker.

Or we might have Lewis Hamilton to steer.

Chris Hoy to come out of retirement.

Great fun.


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How many specialist sailors would be the minimum? Skipper and tactician and the rest doing roles based on physical ability?


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How many specialist sailors would be the minimum? Skipper and tactician and the rest doing roles based on physical ability?

Good question. These things are more like aeroplanes, with all the techno that comes with them.

You possibly don't need a skipper as the computer can bark out instructions.

I've never sailed on one of these, so am in no position to comment. They look pretty terrifying.

I've had passengers looking very ill as we have left the Hamble. What, on God's earth, do you want to be doing, hanging on to a plane wing with a craft that is pretty well out of the water.

(I'm thinking about it.)


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Incidentally the Halberg Rassy is built like the proverbial. Long keel, goes well in the rough but an absolute sod to turn up or down-wind.

I was "working" for the owner (in other words, not skipper) and we had a near disaster off Norway.

Why do yachts have a metallic attraction to buoys?

We missed a big one by inches. He seemed transfixed. I just grabbed the wheel and it all got a bit embarrassing.

I was not prepared to down in the sea up there, it was freezing!

All was not lost. When we got to Trondheim friendship was restored. With the usual. (alcohol.)

There's never a dull moment on a yacht.

Ålesund is where the Management's brother's former wife lives. It's lovely up there.

If only the Norwegians played Rugby!


I'm planning to go up that way this summer. Going to Narvik then going to go hiking in the national parks at the very north of Sweden.


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Despite the apperance, it wasn't as big a choke as you think. Jimmy Spithill is/was a superior to Dean Barker. Oracle were on the verge of abandoning a foiling cat but after observing TNZ's cat when they were testing made some changes and stuck with the concept. That concept was developed right through and up until the AC. Remember the lay day that they took and then came out the next day with a vastly faster boat? Well, that was down to modifications they were constantly making and learning how to sail the foiling cat. They just pulled a massive rabbit out of a hat. But of course there are other factors to consider like wind and water conditions - different boats are set up for different conditions, it's a risk they take in design. And crew. Oracle definitely had a better skipper.


If he is so fucking good, how come he lost so many races to start with in the last America's Cup?

Because TNZ had a superior boat. Oracle's was still developing while they learned to sail it. Spithill is a superior sailor to Dead Barker. I never said he was the best ever or even the best in the world. Barker wasnt even the best sailor in the country as an amateur, he never went to the Olympics and has a modest match racing career.

Now stop being a silly plum and talking shit.


Who's being silly?

Spithill could see how TNZ were sailing yet took half the contest to follow suit. A good skipper would have cottoned on a whole lot earlier. He's a dumb plum, a bit like you.


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Despite the apperance, it wasn't as big a choke as you think. Jimmy Spithill is/was a superior to Dean Barker. Oracle were on the verge of abandoning a foiling cat but after observing TNZ's cat when they were testing made some changes and stuck with the concept. That concept was developed right through and up until the AC. Remember the lay day that they took and then came out the next day with a vastly faster boat? Well, that was down to modifications they were constantly making and learning how to sail the foiling cat. They just pulled a massive rabbit out of a hat. But of course there are other factors to consider like wind and water conditions - different boats are set up for different conditions, it's a risk they take in design. And crew. Oracle definitely had a better skipper.


If he is so fucking good, how come he lost so many races to start with in the last America's Cup?

Because TNZ had a superior boat. Oracle's was still developing while they learned to sail it. Spithill is a superior sailor to Dead Barker. I never said he was the best ever or even the best in the world. Barker wasnt even the best sailor in the country as an amateur, he never went to the Olympics and has a modest match racing career.

Now stop being a silly plum and talking shit.


Who's being silly?

Spithill could see how TNZ were sailing yet took half the contest to follow suit. A good skipper would have cottoned on a whole lot earlier. He's a dumb plum, a bit like you.


I've never understood this whole whole Spithill is better than Barker thing. By the end of the last Cup it was Barker who was winning the starts and then getting rundown by Oracles rocket ship.

In 2007 Spithill was the skipper on Luna Rossa, it was Barkers TNZ that cleaned them up 5 - 0 in the Loius Vuitton Cup. This was on the traditional mono hulls that is truer boat on boat match racing.

If Barker was skipper on Oracle during the last Cup the result would still be the same.


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_fb_, you really don't have any idea what you are talking about do you?


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By the end of the last Cup it was Barker who was winning the starts and then getting rundown by Oracles rocket ship.


they abdicated the starts because they knew they could sail straight past whenever they wanted. The trick was not to get into a collision


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they abdicated the starts because they knew they could sail straight past whenever they wanted. The trick was not to get into a collision


Thats my point.

TNZ conceded the starts at the beginning of the Cup.

The boats decided the Cup. Not the skippers


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If you follow sailing or have sailed much single class it's obvious that Spithill is the superior sailor.


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_fb_, you really don't have any idea what you are talking about do you?



You were the one going on about it being perfectly fine for a boat to take two seconds to respond to steering input.

If you've sailed as much as you allude to on here, you must have been on some shit boats.


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Part of the beauty of the A Cup is that it is not based on skippers. If it was, may as well give it to BAR right now.

Ainslie is surely the finest around.

I suspect it will be him against Oracle in the final. Hope so too. Unless TNZ have truly pulled a rabbit from a hat (and they have form for doing so) it will be those two.


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You were the one going on about it being perfectly fine for a boat to take two seconds to respond to steering input.

If you've sailed as much as you allude to on here, you must have been on some shit boats.

I said it takes time to change direction in a boat. I said nothing about it being "perfectly fine" for a yacht to take two seconds to turn. I've sailed Opti's and P Class. Single make racing in Raven 26's and 31's and a lot of Coastal Cruising in an old H28. The small boats were quick to alter course but the larger weren't exactly what you would call rapid in response. And the 26 I sailed on had about half a ton taken out to lighten it. If anyone on the bored is familiar with Raven 26's in Auckland they'll know which yacht I'm talking about.


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Part of the beauty of the A Cup is that it is not based on skippers. If it was, may as well give it to BAR right now.

Ainslie is surely the finest around.

I suspect it will be him against Oracle in the final. Hope so too. Unless TNZ have truly pulled a rabbit from a hat (and they have form for doing so) it will be those two.

I reckon they have. I suspect all the other teams have seen the data from TNZ testing in the open and shat themselves, that's why they formed that cosy little clique and altered the rules so they can test against each other. TNZ misses out because they don't arrive in Bermuda until much later than the other syndicates.

TNZ have either got a rocket. Or a dud.


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Oracle skipper Jimmy Spithill wary of Team New Zealand's radical catamaran

Oracle skipper Jimmy Spithill appears wary of Team New Zealand's radical boat in the buildup to this year's America's Cup but comfortable with the lessons learned from their victorious tangle with the Kiwis in 2013.

Team New Zealand are the only one of six syndicates yet to arrive in Bermuda ahead of the 35th Cup regatta that starts on May 27 (NZ time).

They have just finished training in Auckland and are about to airfreight their new pedal-powered AC50 north.

Their absence has created an air of anticipation and kept their rivals guessing, including Australian Spithill who is seeking a third consecutive America's Cup at the helm of the ultra-rich American syndicate.

"We haven't seen New Zealand. We have a lot of people down there watching them [practice], but until you get that boat next to you, we don't know," Spithill told luxury lifestyle magazine Town & Country in an America's Cup preview article.

Spithill was initially sceptical when Team New Zealand unveiled their move to have cycling pedestals replace the traditional arm-powered grinding stations to fuel the systems to operate the massive wingsail and foils.

He felt the extra power generated would be compensated by the time lost moving "cyclists" from one hull to the other in manoeuvres.

But the Kiwis have continually refined those systems, believing there is no difference in moving their crew around the boat.

That will have been noted by Oracle's relentless surveillance work in Auckland and may have changed their thoughts on the Kiwi approach, as noted by Team New Zealand boss Grant Dalton.

"We have been watched very closely by the Oracle SoftBank (Team Japan) spies every minute we have been on the water and their vigilance makes me think we built a very good racing machine," Dalton said.

Spithill has a good handle on his other opposition in the leadup to racing.

They have shared design and technology with new syndicate Team Japan and the teams have voted (5-1 with New Zealand against it) to allow practice racing which has already started despite the Kiwis' absence.

Team New Zealand have purposely timed their arrival late, happy to work on their development at home unlike last time when they revealed their foiling abilities too early, allowing teams to copy them and Oracle to eventually outdo them.

Team New Zealand believe their radical pedal approach will be too complex for opponents to replicate at this late stage.

​Spithill predicted this would be "the toughest one to date" as he talked up the strength of the fleet and demands of the ultra-fast 50-foot foiling catamarans.

He felt his sailing squad was in good shape and had little doubt they could handle the heat of competition, pointing to their remarkable comeback from 8-1 down to Team New Zealand in San Francisco in 2013 to win 9-8 and retain the Auld Mug.

"I think it'll be just as tough this year. Obviously we'd like to win the first few races as opposed to losing them," he told Town & Country said of taking on the leading challenger in Bermuda.

"One good thing we have to our advantage is we've seen our people in the worst situation, at match point. Typically when you're winning everyone's happy, everyone gets along, and there are no personality conflicts.

"But when you're going through difficult times, in a match point situation, that's when you typically see a team split apart. I think we have that to our advantage."​

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The more I read about the cosy relationship the other challengers and Oracle have built to effectively enhance Oracle's chances of defending the Cup the more interested I become in this iteration of the Americas Cup.

I think the other syndicates are very, very nervous about what TNZ have produced and I cannot wait for the LV Cup to kick off to see how truly quick these boats are.


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Must admit, I'm getting quite excited about this.


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This sheep shagging effort has breathed new life into this comp. For that alone it should say a big thank you to the shaggers of sheep. This idea could be as game changing as the fosbury flop or just a flop.


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This sheep shagging effort has breathed new life into this comp. For that alone it should say a big thank you to the shaggers of sheep. This idea could be as game changing as the fosbury flop or just a flop.


I don't believe the welsh have entered a team this year Anon


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I'm as usual always interested in the tactics.

I've never sailed an aeroplane and have avoided cats unless it's been a big family do.

You still have to work out the wind shifts and Ainslie is a master at that.

You watch the bobbles on the water and in my day "luff in the puff".

If you race in the Solent, you have to know where to get best tidal flow advantage. Sometimes this means you are sailing in very shallow water, so that gets a bit unnerving!

This does not apply here, so you basically hit the accelerator.

Pull everything in and go for it. This could be very interesting indeed.


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This sheep shagging effort has breathed new life into this comp. For that alone it should say a big thank you to the shaggers of sheep. This idea could be as game changing as the fosbury flop or just a flop.


I don't believe the welsh have entered a team this year Anon


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A New Zealand family are shocked that a market stall is giving away sex toys as prizes, after their young daughter won a blow-up sheep at a fair on the weekend.

The girl's grandfather, Allan Goodman, her mother, Nicola Quinn, and grandmother, Angela Quinn, were stunned when their seven-year-old appeared in their living room yesterday morning, holding her prize
he had won it from Sturgeon Amusements, a market stall at the fair in their hometown of Nelson, on New Zealand's South Island, on Sunday.

The sheep, sporting a French maid's bonnet and with beguiling long-lashed blue eyes, was "disgusting", Angela Quinn said.

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A New Zealand family are shocked that a market stall is giving away sex toys as prizes, after their young daughter won a blow-up sheep at a fair on the weekend.

The girl's grandfather, Allan Goodman, her mother, Nicola Quinn, and grandmother, Angela Quinn, were stunned when their seven-year-old appeared in their living room yesterday morning, holding her prize
he had won it from Sturgeon Amusements, a market stall at the fair in their hometown of Nelson, on New Zealand's South Island, on Sunday.

The sheep, sporting a French maid's bonnet and with beguiling long-lashed blue eyes, was "disgusting", Angela Quinn said.

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So Oracle have had one near capsize and today did actually capsize. They're obviously pushing bloody hard, must be quite nervous at the data they've managed to gather from TNZ's time on the water.


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So Oracle have had one near capsize and today did actually capsize. They're obviously pushing bloody hard, must be quite nervous at the data they've managed to gather from TNZ's time on the water.


Interesting. I hope they sink (no one hurt of course)!

So what's the deal about replacements for damaged parts, boats during racing?


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So Oracle have had one near capsize and today did actually capsize. They're obviously pushing bloody hard, must be quite nervous at the data they've managed to gather from TNZ's time on the water.


Interesting. I hope they sink (no one hurt of course)!

So what's the deal about replacements for damaged parts, boats during racing?

Money. Lots of money.


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pretty sure there was a limit (total of 4?) on how many daggerboards/foils could be produced and once the design for said boards had been submitted cannot be altered in terms of shape or construction.

Until that is Oracle come up with something and change the rules to suit themselves.


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So Oracle have had one near capsize and today did actually capsize. They're obviously pushing bloody hard, must be quite nervous at the data they've managed to gather from TNZ's time on the water.


Interesting. I hope they sink (no one hurt of course)!

So what's the deal about replacements for damaged parts, boats during racing?

Money. Lots of money.


Surely you can only come with so many boats, irrespective of the financial situation.


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So Oracle have had one near capsize and today did actually capsize. They're obviously pushing bloody hard, must be quite nervous at the data they've managed to gather from TNZ's time on the water.


Interesting. I hope they sink (no one hurt of course)!

So what's the deal about replacements for damaged parts, boats during racing?

Money. Lots of money.


Surely you can only come with so many boats, irrespective of the financial situation.

I don't know the latest rules but I doubt there will not be more than one yacht in the harbour on each side

This is a blisteringly expensive business.

I remember going into a chandlers in Les Sables d'Olonne and looking at some winches.

It was in the days before the Euro, so I had to work out how much they cost in sterling.

Nearly fainted. Just add a lot of noughts. Got chatting to the owner and asked why they cost so much. Basically they cast quite a few and test them, then throw quite a lot away as they are not perfect.

I came back and bought three Harkens. One was motorised so you could get the mainsail up without any effort.


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I seem to recall last time when the NZ boat nearly capsized, they were talking about having to roll out the test boat.

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Was looking online, and just saw this news about Artemis crashing.

http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports ... in-bermuda

They say fortunately it was their test boat. So I think the answer might be they can have 1 backup.

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They have an ACC boat and a T2 boat. Well, they had a T2.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:11 pm 
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Video of the oracle capsize

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/arti ... d=11834968


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:57 pm 
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Yourmother wrote:

Cheers. Glad nobody got hurt.

When cats go over, sometimes crew get trapped. And drown. Relieved to know that didn't happen this time.


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