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Driver(s) of the day for me is/are:
1. Lewis Hamilton 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
2. Valtteri Bottas 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
3. Sebastian Vettel 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
4. Charles Leclerc 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
5. Alexander Albon 10%  10%  [ 12 ]
6. Max Verstappen 30%  30%  [ 36 ]
7. Sergio Perez 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
8. Lance Stroll 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
9. Robert Kubica 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
10. George Russell 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
11. Carlos Sainz 21%  21%  [ 25 ]
12. Lando Norris 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
13. Pierre Gasly 29%  29%  [ 35 ]
14. Daniil Kvyat 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
15. Romain Grosjean 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
16. Kevin Magnussen 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
17. Nico Hulkenberg 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
18. Daniel Ricciardo 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
19. Kimi Raikkonen 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
20. Antonio Giovinazzi 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:47 pm 
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For me,

Verstappen, Gasly & Sainz

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Agreed with OP.


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Gasly

Verstappen, Sainz

Undeservedly unlucky heroes: Albon, Leclerc

Hamilton at least admits his mistake.

Vettel: unnecesary, dangerous, stupid, more than disappointing


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I went with Max, Gasly and Sainz as well. For Max this was a big day. Not only did he get his third win (career high), he also took back third in the standings. Awesome weekend from him overall.

For Gasly and Carlos, I'm just happy that they had those finishes. First big day like this for the midfielders since Germany.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:06 pm 
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Sainz probably. Not voted yet.

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Despite very strong drives from Sainz and Gasly, I have to give this one to Max. Had superior pace all day and passed Hamilton for the lead twice, the second pass in particular was utterly brilliant.


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Max, Gasly and Albon.

Sainz was lucky with the SC and there was a train of midfield behind him.

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Despite very strong drives from Sainz and Gasly, I have to give this one to Max. Had superior pace all day and passed Hamilton for the lead twice, the second pass in particular was utterly brilliant.

The second pass was a walk in the park with the pace difference on those tires. The first was the important one.


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Max drove very well, but having the fastest car in the race makes it a little less of a drive compared to Sainz and Gasly.

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Max drove very well, but having the fastest car in the race makes it a little less of a drive compared to Sainz and Gasly.

The safety car played into Sainz and Gasly's favour in the same way that Verstappen's car speed and performance did. Grosjean could easily have been right up at the top too if the team had the luck the others did. Grosjean was 7th and was left out, and then had a problem and fell right to pretty much last with an issue. It was more luck that made gasly's and Sainz's drive look impressive. Grosjean and some others could have done the same if he had better luck. His qualifying and early race pace was impressive too. His luck then went downhill as it always seems to this year. I think he has to have been the most unlucky driver over a season in simply years. 7 retirements, and other technical issues affecting his race.


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Max drove very well, but having the fastest car in the race makes it a little less of a drive compared to Sainz and Gasly.

The safety car played into Sainz and Gasly's favour in the same way that Verstappen's car speed and performance did. Grosjean could easily have been right up at the top too if the team had the luck the others did. Grosjean was 7th and was left out, and then had a problem and fell right to pretty much last with an issue. It was more luck that made gasly's and Sainz's drive look impressive. Grosjean and some others could have done the same if he had better luck. His qualifying and early race pace was impressive too. His luck then went downhill as it always seems to this year. I think he has to have been the most unlucky driver over a season in simply years. 7 retirements, and other technical issues affecting his race.


Of course, but starting last in a car that's not a front runner, he did bloody well for me.

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Max drove very well, but having the fastest car in the race makes it a little less of a drive compared to Sainz and Gasly.

The safety car played into Sainz and Gasly's favour in the same way that Verstappen's car speed and performance did. Grosjean could easily have been right up at the top too if the team had the luck the others did. Grosjean was 7th and was left out, and then had a problem and fell right to pretty much last with an issue. It was more luck that made gasly's and Sainz's drive look impressive. Grosjean and some others could have done the same if he had better luck. His qualifying and early race pace was impressive too. His luck then went downhill as it always seems to this year. I think he has to have been the most unlucky driver over a season in simply years. 7 retirements, and other technical issues affecting his race.


BIB - behave. They were mighty impressive drives when they were running 6/7th. The fact they finished 2/4th just means Gasly got something to show for it.


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Are Albon and Leclerc getting sympathy votes? What did Norris do?


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JN23 wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Max drove very well, but having the fastest car in the race makes it a little less of a drive compared to Sainz and Gasly.

The safety car played into Sainz and Gasly's favour in the same way that Verstappen's car speed and performance did. Grosjean could easily have been right up at the top too if the team had the luck the others did. Grosjean was 7th and was left out, and then had a problem and fell right to pretty much last with an issue. It was more luck that made gasly's and Sainz's drive look impressive. Grosjean and some others could have done the same if he had better luck. His qualifying and early race pace was impressive too. His luck then went downhill as it always seems to this year. I think he has to have been the most unlucky driver over a season in simply years. 7 retirements, and other technical issues affecting his race.


BIB - behave. They were mighty impressive drives when they were running 6/7th. The fact they finished 2/4th just means Gasly got something to show for it.

This is like saying it was down to kvyat being just as good when he got his podium. Not many seemed that impressed by that. Gasly was better than kvyat back then, but the chaos and safety car helped out massively and in a very similar way. We saw kvyat actually do some decent overtakes too.

I still think the votes are heavily triggered more so because of the luck. Won't stop me voting for him at all though. it was a very good race. But i don't think he was more impressive than verstappen. and even Grosjean impressed me a lot from his pace early on given how bad hass have been recently. But i bet he will get next to no credit based on his reputation.


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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
JN23 wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Max drove very well, but having the fastest car in the race makes it a little less of a drive compared to Sainz and Gasly.

The safety car played into Sainz and Gasly's favour in the same way that Verstappen's car speed and performance did. Grosjean could easily have been right up at the top too if the team had the luck the others did. Grosjean was 7th and was left out, and then had a problem and fell right to pretty much last with an issue. It was more luck that made gasly's and Sainz's drive look impressive. Grosjean and some others could have done the same if he had better luck. His qualifying and early race pace was impressive too. His luck then went downhill as it always seems to this year. I think he has to have been the most unlucky driver over a season in simply years. 7 retirements, and other technical issues affecting his race.


BIB - behave. They were mighty impressive drives when they were running 6/7th. The fact they finished 2/4th just means Gasly got something to show for it.

This is like saying it was down to kvyat being just as good when he got his podium. Not many seemed that impressed by that. Gasly was better than kvyat back then, but the chaos and safety car helped out massively and in a very similar way. We saw kvyat actually do some decent overtakes too.

I still think the votes are heavily triggered more so because of the luck. Won't stop me voting for him at all though. it was a very good race. But i don't think he was more impressive than verstappen. and even Grosjean impressed me a lot from his pace early on given how bad hass have been recently. But i bet he will get next to no credit based on his reputation.


This forum voted Kvyat driver of the day.


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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Max drove very well, but having the fastest car in the race makes it a little less of a drive compared to Sainz and Gasly.

The safety car played into Sainz and Gasly's favour in the same way that Verstappen's car speed and performance did. Grosjean could easily have been right up at the top too if the team had the luck the others did. Grosjean was 7th and was left out, and then had a problem and fell right to pretty much last with an issue. It was more luck that made gasly's and Sainz's drive look impressive. Grosjean and some others could have done the same if he had better luck. His qualifying and early race pace was impressive too. His luck then went downhill as it always seems to this year. I think he has to have been the most unlucky driver over a season in simply years. 7 retirements, and other technical issues affecting his race.


Gasly was mighty strong and a contender for DOTD before the SCs


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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
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Max drove very well, but having the fastest car in the race makes it a little less of a drive compared to Sainz and Gasly.

The safety car played into Sainz and Gasly's favour in the same way that Verstappen's car speed and performance did. Grosjean could easily have been right up at the top too if the team had the luck the others did. Grosjean was 7th and was left out, and then had a problem and fell right to pretty much last with an issue. It was more luck that made gasly's and Sainz's drive look impressive. Grosjean and some others could have done the same if he had better luck. His qualifying and early race pace was impressive too. His luck then went downhill as it always seems to this year. I think he has to have been the most unlucky driver over a season in simply years. 7 retirements, and other technical issues affecting his race.


BIB - behave. They were mighty impressive drives when they were running 6/7th. The fact they finished 2/4th just means Gasly got something to show for it.

This is like saying it was down to kvyat being just as good when he got his podium. Not many seemed that impressed by that. Gasly was better than kvyat back then, but the chaos and safety car helped out massively and in a very similar way. We saw kvyat actually do some decent overtakes too.

I still think the votes are heavily triggered more so because of the luck. Won't stop me voting for him at all though. it was a very good race. But i don't think he was more impressive than verstappen. and even Grosjean impressed me a lot from his pace early on given how bad hass have been recently. But i bet he will get next to no credit based on his reputation.


I think Gasly would have still got a load of votes without finishing 2nd and I reckon Sainz would have got a fair few too. I'd have still voted for them both.

It's possible to think that Gasly, Sainz and Grosjean were all impressive.


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Indeed, Gasly was running comfortably and impressively best of the rest all race. That's why he was in the best position of all for the safety cars to work out for him and gain a massive result, as much as it was luck. If he finished 6/7 and the last laps were uneventful he was still a driver of the day for me.

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Verstappen, Albon, Gasly. Top 5 includes Leclerc and Sainz as well.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
JN23 wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
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Max drove very well, but having the fastest car in the race makes it a little less of a drive compared to Sainz and Gasly.

The safety car played into Sainz and Gasly's favour in the same way that Verstappen's car speed and performance did. Grosjean could easily have been right up at the top too if the team had the luck the others did. Grosjean was 7th and was left out, and then had a problem and fell right to pretty much last with an issue. It was more luck that made gasly's and Sainz's drive look impressive. Grosjean and some others could have done the same if he had better luck. His qualifying and early race pace was impressive too. His luck then went downhill as it always seems to this year. I think he has to have been the most unlucky driver over a season in simply years. 7 retirements, and other technical issues affecting his race.


BIB - behave. They were mighty impressive drives when they were running 6/7th. The fact they finished 2/4th just means Gasly got something to show for it.

This is like saying it was down to kvyat being just as good when he got his podium. Not many seemed that impressed by that. Gasly was better than kvyat back then, but the chaos and safety car helped out massively and in a very similar way. We saw kvyat actually do some decent overtakes too.

I still think the votes are heavily triggered more so because of the luck. Won't stop me voting for him at all though. it was a very good race. But i don't think he was more impressive than verstappen. and even Grosjean impressed me a lot from his pace early on given how bad hass have been recently. But i bet he will get next to no credit based on his reputation.


This forum voted Kvyat driver of the day.

I am happy to be corrected on that then. But i do remember a large number of comments reflecting on how lucky he was. I agree his early race was not all that impressive, but i think the end of it once he was on those tyres was quite possibly more impressive than Gasly was in this race at the end.

I think I will be going for Gasly, Verstappen and Sainz / or Grosjean. I think sainz was helped out an awful lot by the safety car though. I don't want to be too against his race too much, but his car was far faster than those who he got by early on and he got helped somewhat at the end. I normally dislike it when other people do these sort of votes based on them thinking their drives haven't been recognised enough. But i am a bit tempted to vote Grosjean over Sainz as his drive was also excellent until he was in an unlucky position with the safety car then only had yet another technical issue.


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A rare moment when I think the podium really did encompass the three best drivers of the day. Max, Pierre and Carlos.

Honorable mention to Albon and Leclerc.

Dishonorable mention to Vettel.

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Max was fantastic today - great race from him.

Gasly was very strong and in a comfortable 7th before the fireworks, which is decent in itself. But from then he really just picked up the pieces. Albon still lacks pace to the top 5, as you'd expect at this stage in his career, but found away past the Ferrari's (Vettel at least) and was putting Hamilton under pressure albeit with a tyre advantage. I think any votes he gets are fully justified.


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Another vote for Verstappen, Gasly & Sainz.

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Sainz, Verstappen, and Gasly for me. All of them had really strong drives. Honorable mention to Albon, who was doing rather well.

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Sainz, Verstappen, and Gasly for me. All of them had really strong drives. Honorable mention to Albon, who was doing rather well.


I would have given Albon more credit but his situational awareness in the incident with Lewis was pretty bad. He left the door wide open for Lewis to make an attempt even though he knew Lewis was right behind him. Then he neglected to check where Lewis was when he turned in. An amateurish mistake, only partly excusable because he is an F1 rookie.

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Actually Sainz deserves more credit than Gasly ( who drove a fab race no doubt)! Sainz finished 3rd from 20th.....Wow!

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One of the most straight forward votes, isn't it? The top three got it spot on.


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This day will go down in history, that almost everyone agreed on the same three drivers. Maybe in different order and for different reasons, but still ....

Sainz for driving what maybe the best drive of his career, going from dead last to fourth. This race catapulted him to number one status within the team, Norris is still respected, but Sainz is the man.

Gasly for taking a mid-field car and driving his best race of his career. near perfect. When the team arrive home they must have a convoy of ambulances to ferry everyone to the nearest hospital, all will be suffering severe alcohol poisoning from the trans-Atlantic flight. Party at thirty thousand feet, woop woop.

And Verstappen for proving that he may be the best driver on the grid, not only taking a very good car to a win, but passing Hamilton in a very spectacular fashion, when he had to. He owned "Hammer Time" in Brazil. He went fast when he had to, and he passed when he had to.

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This day will go down in history, that almost everyone agreed on the same three drivers. Maybe in different order and for different reasons, but still ....

Sainz for driving what maybe the best drive of his career, going from dead last to fourth. This race catapulted him to number one status within the team, Norris is still respected, but Sainz is the man.

Gasly for taking a mid-field car and driving his best race of his career. near perfect. When the team arrive home they must have a convoy of ambulances to ferry everyone to the nearest hospital, all will be suffering severe alcohol poisoning from the trans-Atlantic flight. Party at thirty thousand feet, woop woop.

And Verstappen for proving that he may be the best driver on the grid, not only taking a very good car to a win, but passing Hamilton in a very spectacular fashion, when he had to. He owned "Hammer Time" in Brazil. He went fast when he had to, and he passed when he had to.


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For me an easy vote for Verstappen.

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Kimi - 2 votes
Giovinazzi - 1 vote

I just wish people would get the voting seriously... Maybe this will be my Christmas wish this year!


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Kimi - 2 votes
Giovinazzi - 1 vote

I just wish people would get the voting seriously... Maybe this will be my Christmas wish this year!


They finished 4th and 5th. I didn't vote for them but I hardly think a vote for them is ridiculous.


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Kimi - 2 votes
Giovinazzi - 1 vote

I just wish people would get the voting seriously... Maybe this will be my Christmas wish this year!


They finished 4th and 5th. I didn't vote for them but I hardly think a vote for them is ridiculous.

Yeah Kimi was 0.5s from a podium in an Alfa.

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Covalent wrote:
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Kimi - 2 votes
Giovinazzi - 1 vote

I just wish people would get the voting seriously... Maybe this will be my Christmas wish this year!


They finished 4th and 5th. I didn't vote for them but I hardly think a vote for them is ridiculous.

Yeah Kimi was 0.5s from a podium in an Alfa.

Only because of a late SC and a few mishaps of the guys ahead.

Ok, maybe I was a bit harsh so I'll have another wish this Christmas(!!), but does anyone genuinely think that they did more than the top 3?


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Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
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Kimi - 2 votes
Giovinazzi - 1 vote

I just wish people would get the voting seriously... Maybe this will be my Christmas wish this year!


They finished 4th and 5th. I didn't vote for them but I hardly think a vote for them is ridiculous.

Yeah Kimi was 0.5s from a podium in an Alfa.

Only because of a late SC and a few mishaps of the guys ahead.

Ok, maybe I was a bit harsh so I'll have another wish this Christmas(!!), but does anyone genuinely think that they did more than the top 3?


If you think the Alfa is a poorer car (which it possibly is) then you could make a case for it.


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Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
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Kimi - 2 votes
Giovinazzi - 1 vote

I just wish people would get the voting seriously... Maybe this will be my Christmas wish this year!


They finished 4th and 5th. I didn't vote for them but I hardly think a vote for them is ridiculous.

Yeah Kimi was 0.5s from a podium in an Alfa.

Only because of a late SC and a few mishaps of the guys ahead.

Ok, maybe I was a bit harsh so I'll have another wish this Christmas(!!), but does anyone genuinely think that they did more than the top 3?

Not my choice for top 3 DoD but I wouldn't be able to disprove (or prove) a claim that they drove better than the top 3.

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Kimi - 2 votes
Giovinazzi - 1 vote

I just wish people would get the voting seriously... Maybe this will be my Christmas wish this year!


They finished 4th and 5th. I didn't vote for them but I hardly think a vote for them is ridiculous.

Yeah Kimi was 0.5s from a podium in an Alfa.

Only because of a late SC and a few mishaps of the guys ahead.

Ok, maybe I was a bit harsh so I'll have another wish this Christmas(!!), but does anyone genuinely think that they did more than the top 3?


If you think the Alfa is a poorer car (which it possibly is) then you could make a case for it.

Fair enough!


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Max drove very well, but having the fastest car in the race makes it a little less of a drive compared to Sainz and Gasly.

Agreed, and while Sainz & Gasly were both excellent, without the safety cars, they wouldn't have finished so close to the front runners.

I will say however, with all this talk about Verstappen being the best driver on the grid today… First, no he's not, he's not far off, but I'd venture to say the Sainz is even better. Sainz has put on a clinic in the McLaren this year and hasn't made any mistakes that I can recall. In fact, Sainz is likely the DOTY for me. He's been that good and that consistent all year long. In races where he has the outright pace over his teammate he's run excellent races, but on days when Norris is faster, he usually managed to maintain his pace, maximize his opportunities and finish ahead. Really impressive stiff from Sainz and I think if he were in RBR with Verstappen they'd be awfully close, and wouldn't be surprised to see him best Verstappen.

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Asphalt_World wrote:
Max drove very well, but having the fastest car in the race makes it a little less of a drive compared to Sainz and Gasly.

Agreed, and while Sainz & Gasly were both excellent, without the safety cars, they wouldn't have finished so close to the front runners.

I will say however, with all this talk about Verstappen being the best driver on the grid today… First, no he's not, he's not far off, but I'd venture to say the Sainz is even better. Sainz has put on a clinic in the McLaren this year and hasn't made any mistakes that I can recall. In fact, Sainz is likely the DOTY for me. He's been that good and that consistent all year long. In races where he has the outright pace over his teammate he's run excellent races, but on days when Norris is faster, he usually managed to maintain his pace, maximize his opportunities and finish ahead. Really impressive stiff from Sainz and I think if he were in RBR with Verstappen they'd be awfully close, and wouldn't be surprised to see him best Verstappen.


If that were true then Norris is going to become the greatest of all time and Hulkenberg is as good as Schumacher.


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I think I'll go for Verstappen, Gasly and Grosjean. Am pretty surprised there have been over 100 votes and grosjean doesn't have a single one. He was running in 6th before he first pitted. His first stint was very strong indeed. When the safety car came out, it was bad timeing for him and they chose to leave him out. He was then in 7th. Then he had an MGU-K failure and this then effected his position. This was a very solid but unlucky race for Grosjean. People tend to feel sorry for other drivers when their race starts out great and everything goes wrong for them, but as i predicted, Grosjean just doesn't seem to get the appreciation when he puts in a good performance.

People may not like that I'm not going for Sainz instead, but i think some are getting a bit over excited about how impressive his race from 20th to 3rd was. If we factor in that the Mclaren is easily better than half the other cars on the grid, climbing up half of it won't have been that hard. Also note that Ricciardo and magnussen colliding will have helped him. Then, Bottas retiring, Vettel and leclerc crashing, Albon falling back and hamilton getting a penalty. All this taken into account, I think Sainz will have only just got into the points. That will have still been a very solid drive, but i don't think people would be quite as amazed as they are now by it. To me is was a bit like Stroll's performance in Baku that year. Keeping out of trouble and bringing home great results in a crazy race, but it was somewhat lucky and not amazing for the ability of his car.


I don't want to be against Sainz, i just thought I should give a reason why i have gone for another driver over him. I would have voted all 4 of these if I could. I don't think I could leave Gasly out either. I may have dropped Verstappen if it wasn't for the fact he really was challenged when he lost time in the pits and had to overtake hamilton. He did a great job at staying calm and instantly recovering.


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