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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:04 pm 
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Seeing as this is becoming more specifically the What-Sanction-Should-Vettel-Have-Received thread (I assume that, as part of FP and Quali, this is still on-topic!), I'll chime in with my opinion.
In terms of the weighing procedure, I think that the officials could have been a little more 'on the game.' Every quali session is critical in terms of time and the officials should be respectful of that in terms of the drivers.
As for Vettel - sending the rear portion of the scales flying back as he took off may well have resulted in a not insignificant injury to any persons in the vicinity - never mind the cost of the scales themselves. I'd argue that a safety issue should have a more serious sanction than a mere fine. If the stewards feel that there were mitigating circumstances (I don't know the details of the report into it but have speculated that he was frustrated by the seemingly casual approach of the officials at the weigh station and that this may have been taken into account), a suspended punishment might have been appropriate. Otherwise, as mentioned already, where is the deterrent?

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Seeing as this is becoming more specifically the What-Sanction-Should-Vettel-Have-Received thread (I assume that, as part of FP and Quali, this is still on-topic!), I'll chime in with my opinion.
In terms of the weighing procedure, I think that the officials could have been a little more 'on the game.' Every quali session is critical in terms of time and the officials should be respectful of that in terms of the drivers.
As for Vettel - sending the rear portion of the scales flying back as he took off may well have resulted in a not insignificant injury to any persons in the vicinity - never mind the cost of the scales themselves. I'd argue that a safety issue should have a more serious sanction than a mere fine. If the stewards feel that there were mitigating circumstances (I don't know the details of the report into it but have speculated that he was frustrated by the seemingly casual approach of the officials at the weigh station and that this may have been taken into account), a suspended punishment might have been appropriate. Otherwise, as mentioned already, where is the deterrent?

For my part given the dangerous aspect of flying scales in respect to the stewards I was surprised he didn't get points on his license, as we have seen in the past a F1 car reversing down the pit lane at 5 mph is deemed dangerous enough for penalty points.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:08 pm 
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I think the only proper sanction would have been disqualification.

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Covalent wrote:
I think the only proper sanction would have been disqualification.


DQ? Weighing has hardly anything to do with the race of a driver to get him disqualified. He should be disqualified if he missed the weighing, not for being anxious to get back on track. It was naughty for sure, but to disqualify a driver for that sounds like a stretch. Maybe back of the field? Start from pit lane? That sounds deterrent enough without kicking him out of the race, no driver would want to compromise his race like that.


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Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I think the only proper sanction would have been disqualification.


DQ? Weighing has hardly anything to do with the race of a driver to get him disqualified. He should be disqualified if he missed the weighing, not for being anxious to get back on track. It was naughty for sure, but to disqualify a driver for that sounds like a stretch. Maybe back of the field? Start from pit lane? That sounds deterrent enough without kicking him out of the race, no driver would want to compromise his race like that.


I sense Covalent is being sarcastic.


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Rockie wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I think the only proper sanction would have been disqualification.


DQ? Weighing has hardly anything to do with the race of a driver to get him disqualified. He should be disqualified if he missed the weighing, not for being anxious to get back on track. It was naughty for sure, but to disqualify a driver for that sounds like a stretch. Maybe back of the field? Start from pit lane? That sounds deterrent enough without kicking him out of the race, no driver would want to compromise his race like that.


I sense Covalent is being sarcastic.


If so, egg on my face!


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Rockie wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I think the only proper sanction would have been disqualification.


DQ? Weighing has hardly anything to do with the race of a driver to get him disqualified. He should be disqualified if he missed the weighing, not for being anxious to get back on track. It was naughty for sure, but to disqualify a driver for that sounds like a stretch. Maybe back of the field? Start from pit lane? That sounds deterrent enough without kicking him out of the race, no driver would want to compromise his race like that.


I sense Covalent is being sarcastic.

I've seen that said before, so maybe not?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:51 am 
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Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I think the only proper sanction would have been disqualification.


DQ? Weighing has hardly anything to do with the race of a driver to get him disqualified. He should be disqualified if he missed the weighing, not for being anxious to get back on track. It was naughty for sure, but to disqualify a driver for that sounds like a stretch. Maybe back of the field? Start from pit lane? That sounds deterrent enough without kicking him out of the race, no driver would want to compromise his race like that.

I meant disqualified from the qualification (I know there's a word for it but just can't find it) so should have started from the back.
It's what I would have said had any driver did what Vettel did at the weighing bridge.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:51 am 
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pokerman wrote:
Rockie wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I think the only proper sanction would have been disqualification.


DQ? Weighing has hardly anything to do with the race of a driver to get him disqualified. He should be disqualified if he missed the weighing, not for being anxious to get back on track. It was naughty for sure, but to disqualify a driver for that sounds like a stretch. Maybe back of the field? Start from pit lane? That sounds deterrent enough without kicking him out of the race, no driver would want to compromise his race like that.


I sense Covalent is being sarcastic.

I've seen that said before, so maybe not?

On this rare occasion, no sarcasm here!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:26 am 
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Covalent wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I think the only proper sanction would have been disqualification.


DQ? Weighing has hardly anything to do with the race of a driver to get him disqualified. He should be disqualified if he missed the weighing, not for being anxious to get back on track. It was naughty for sure, but to disqualify a driver for that sounds like a stretch. Maybe back of the field? Start from pit lane? That sounds deterrent enough without kicking him out of the race, no driver would want to compromise his race like that.

I meant disqualified from the qualification (I know there's a word for it but just can't find it) so should have started from the back.
It's what I would have said had any driver did what Vettel did at the weighing bridge.

Excluded from qualifying, I believe is the term.

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Exediron wrote:
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Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I think the only proper sanction would have been disqualification.


DQ? Weighing has hardly anything to do with the race of a driver to get him disqualified. He should be disqualified if he missed the weighing, not for being anxious to get back on track. It was naughty for sure, but to disqualify a driver for that sounds like a stretch. Maybe back of the field? Start from pit lane? That sounds deterrent enough without kicking him out of the race, no driver would want to compromise his race like that.

I meant disqualified from the qualification (I know there's a word for it but just can't find it) so should have started from the back.
It's what I would have said had any driver did what Vettel did at the weighing bridge.

Excluded from qualifying, I believe is the term.

Thanks that's it!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:56 am 
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Covalent wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I think the only proper sanction would have been disqualification.


DQ? Weighing has hardly anything to do with the race of a driver to get him disqualified. He should be disqualified if he missed the weighing, not for being anxious to get back on track. It was naughty for sure, but to disqualify a driver for that sounds like a stretch. Maybe back of the field? Start from pit lane? That sounds deterrent enough without kicking him out of the race, no driver would want to compromise his race like that.

I meant disqualified from the qualification (I know there's a word for it but just can't find it) so should have started from the back.
It's what I would have said had any driver did what Vettel did at the weighing bridge.

Oh, ok, that makes more sense!

Start from the pits I guess. Sounds like a fitting punishment.


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