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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:07 pm 
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I was thinking...these forums go quite quiet during non-race weeks and thought this would be a bit of fun.

You know your going to be a race driver but can ONLY drive for THREE teams only.
But you have to choose ONE team from EACH group. You can choose which order your career takes you...

Group 1
Williams
Sauber
Toro Rosso

Group 2
McLaren
Renault
Haas
Force India

Group 3
Mercedes
Red Bull
Ferrari


I'd go for my first stint in F1 for Toro Rosso as they seem like a fun and passionate team to drive for. I also love their livery!
Then I'd go for Force India as they always outperform and have a fantastic livery...but I feel that having Mercedes engines sets me up for my next move...
Then the pinnacle move would be Mercedes but it was super close between them and the Reds!

Toro Rosso - Force India - Mercedes


What is yours?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:15 pm 
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Group 1 - Williams. Grew up on Mansell then Hill at this team, so always have a place in my heart.
Group 2 - Haas. Was close call between them and FI and was little more than a coin toss between them.
Group 3 - RBR. Not particularly even a fan of theirs, but they are a remarkable team and seem to consistanly produce astonishingly good chassis.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:24 pm 
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Taking nostalgia and personal preference into account, but discounting current shape: Williams > McLaren > Red Bull

Going by actual current performance & strategic interest: Toro Rosso > Renault > Ferrari

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:21 pm 
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Sauber, Haas, Ferrari

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:28 pm 
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I'd go for the traditional teams;
Williams, McLaren and Ferrari.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:31 pm 
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Group 1 - Toro Rosso. Just because they seem a bit fresh compared to the others
Group 2 - McLaren. Have been my favourite team for as long as I can remember, although they are doing their best to undo that at the moment
Group 3 - Ferrari. If I could say I've driven for McLaren and Ferrari I'd die a happy man!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:07 pm 
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Close to Blake and Zoue:

Group 1 - Sauber as I have a soft spot for them. I always liked them for some reason. A small team that has been there for ages, a good stepping stone to the bigger teams. Bonus that Peter Sauber seems to be a thoroughly nice chap

Group 2 - McLaren. I hated them in the past. They were the best team in my youth, when my favourite team was winning absolutely 0 things. But I went to Uni at Guildford, a stone's throw from their headquarters, where they had a McLaren F1 road car model in our department. One of the nicest cars ever produced. I was amazed by that car and got a bit of a soft spot for them. From being the enemy to curiosity settling in. Hakkinen being there also made it easier for me to like them. So I'd be curious to know my arch enemy from my younger years!

Group 3 - Ferrari. Do we need to say more? It is Ferrari, a living legend of the sport and one of the most passionate places to be. Like Zoue, if I'd driven for these teams, I'd be a happy man.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:21 pm 
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Williams - would like to have one last victory for Williams to make Frank happy once more, as these present guys are not able to do it.
Renault - it would be cool to have Alain Prost as a boss and win with him WDC.
Ferrari - because it would be cool to get the WDC in Ferrari at Monza.

What a life that would be! :)

Than making a one year comeback with Mercedes to celebrate WDC with Niki Lauda. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:41 pm 
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I think the reason why I didn't choose Williams was because I re-read Mark Webber's autobiograpy last night - Chapter "It can't be happening...".

He said he went to Williams because well...ITS WILLIAMS and Sir Frank.

But he said once he was there, he could see that Sir Frank and other senior members were working the team REEEALLY hard to the point that employees hated being there. They didn't enjoy their job (and then Mark reference how different Red Bull was to them).

That opinion swayed me to think, I don't want to driver for an ultimately unhappy team. Webber even mentioned that hardly any driver says how their time at Williams was one of their favourite/most fun/best.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:53 pm 
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olly-44 wrote:
I think the reason why I didn't choose Williams was because I re-read Mark Webber's autobiograpy last night - Chapter "It can't be happening...".

He said he went to Williams because well...ITS WILLIAMS and Sir Frank.

But he said once he was there, he could see that Sir Frank and other senior members were working the team REEEALLY hard to the point that employees hated being there. They didn't enjoy their job (and then Mark reference how different Red Bull was to them).

That opinion swayed me to think, I don't want to driver for an ultimately unhappy team. Webber even mentioned that hardly any driver says how their time at Williams was one of their favourite/most fun/best.

Interesting to hear that about Williams, I can certainly imagine Patrick Head cracking the whip back in the day. Conversely I did read an article saying that Force India are quite the opposite; they apparently treat their employees well and give them plenty of flexibility in their working hours, and get plenty of commitment in return. It seems to have served them well over the past few years.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:23 pm 
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I would do the Carlos Sainz Jr route...

Toro Rosso
A high pressure but exciting place to be as a rookie. The car can be capable of a top 10 or top 5 on some tracks and this would be exciting as a new driver. The Red Bull junior drivers get to do exhibitions and test days in the lead Red Bull cars. They also get to do some cool, fun things off-track.

Renault
I think Renault would be a good place to step up from Toro Rosso and hone my skills. Not so much pressure to win as they aren't a top 3 team. A car that can run in the top 10 consistently and could even score a podium on a very good day. This would be about beating my teammate consistently.

Red Bull
This might be an illogical choice given the other choices are going to make me a likely title contender and almost definitely a race winner. But there's something more exciting about Red Bull. When they are on, they are ON. The best chassis and downforce in the business means the highest corner speeds. A cracking team with great strategy calls and race pace. A win in one of these cars would be all the more sweet. Red Bull always have the potential for championships when everything goes well. The off-track life seems fun too. Towing caravans around in an Aston Martin and laughing the whole time? Couldn't imagine that at Mercedes.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:31 pm 
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Toro Rosso, Haas, Mercedes. It's about winning, not nostalgia.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:21 am 
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Torro Rosso, Haas, Ferrari. Same reasons as MB-BOB.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:42 am 
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olly-44 wrote:
I think the reason why I didn't choose Williams was because I re-read Mark Webber's autobiograpy last night - Chapter "It can't be happening...".

He said he went to Williams because well...ITS WILLIAMS and Sir Frank.

But he said once he was there, he could see that Sir Frank and other senior members were working the team REEEALLY hard to the point that employees hated being there. They didn't enjoy their job (and then Mark reference how different Red Bull was to them).

That opinion swayed me to think, I don't want to driver for an ultimately unhappy team. Webber even mentioned that hardly any driver says how their time at Williams was one of their favourite/most fun/best.


Yep. Great, easy-reading book for an insight into modern F1.

Granted that was more than 10 years ago, but it seems Williams was a pretty peaky place to be at that stage. The seniors didn't listen to advice, and if their car broke down or if somebody took you out, it was your fault.

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Bearing in mind that McLaren is my favorite team and I'd want to drive my whole career for them, here's my imagined career path:

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As a promising driver in F2, I'm offered a drive by Toro Rosso. I refuse it however, since I don't want to drive for RBR and I'm hoping in vain that McLaren will notice me. They don't, and I'm almost out of a drive when Williams decides to take a punt on me.

I end up driving 3 years for Williams, and then when my contract is up I finally switch to McLaren like I've always wanted. At McLaren the success comes and I spend the next 10 years there, before succombing to the desire in all drivers to finish my career at Ferrari.

I sign a one-year contract for Ferrari, but get fired halfway through the year for criticizing their car.

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Exediron wrote:
Bearing in mind that McLaren is my favorite team and I'd want to drive my whole career for them, here's my imagined career path:

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As a promising driver in F2, I'm offered a drive by Toro Rosso. I refuse it however, since I don't want to drive for RBR and I'm hoping in vain that McLaren will notice me. They don't, and I'm almost out of a drive when Williams decides to take a punt on me.

I end up driving 3 years for Williams, and then when my contract is up I finally switch to McLaren like I've always wanted. At McLaren the success comes and I spend the next 10 years there, before succombing to the desire in all drivers to finish my career at Ferrari.

I sign a one-year contract for Ferrari, but get fired halfway through the year for criticizing their car.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:36 am 
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olly-44 wrote:
Exediron wrote:
Bearing in mind that McLaren is my favorite team and I'd want to drive my whole career for them, here's my imagined career path:

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As a promising driver in F2, I'm offered a drive by Toro Rosso. I refuse it however, since I don't want to drive for RBR and I'm hoping in vain that McLaren will notice me. They don't, and I'm almost out of a drive when Williams decides to take a punt on me.

I end up driving 3 years for Williams, and then when my contract is up I finally switch to McLaren like I've always wanted. At McLaren the success comes and I spend the next 10 years there, before succombing to the desire in all drivers to finish my career at Ferrari.

I sign a one-year contract for Ferrari, but get fired halfway through the year for criticizing their car.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Prost style!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:26 am 
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Nice one Exediron. I was thinking along the same lines.

Phase 1: 2 years learning the ropes and paying my dues at Sauber.
Phase 2: Move on to Haas where I hone my racing skills in the midfield.
Phase 3: I don’t have to change teams because between great development and my driving Haas is the team to be at.
Phase 4: Sign on at either Ferrari or Mclaren to see out my twilight racing years playing rear gunner for a young hot shoe.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:20 pm 
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Toro Rosso
Haas
Redbull.

I just like them because they have a fresh, fun approach to F1. Would throw Force India there to but I cannot make too many moves.

I hope Redbull take me back after deserting for Haas them when they supported me at Toro Rosso as a young driver.
Unfortunately there is no other way to get to a top team.


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The obvious one to start is STR. But, That would mean I would then be in the Red Bull family so I would either go directly to Red Bull or by losing my place in the family probably slip from F1 as I would not be seen as good enough to keep (as history shows)

At the moment, Haas, they are on the way up without the pressures of Mclaren or Renault and FI is a little unstable at the moment.

Provided I was not still chained to Red Bull, which would not be a bad option, It would be Merc, for no other reasonthan I seen them winning for the next few years.

Ferrari are not my sort of team, I would not like it there.


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Blake wrote:
Sauber, Haas, Ferrari
Is it age or shared wisdom? I straightaway chose Sauber and Haas also. Only Ferrari is less straightforward. But then, so are Red Bull and Mercedes. Since none of these three will back their drivers equally, I would simply go to the team that offered the most for my services. And then go to where the real action is: WEC. :D

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moby wrote:
The obvious one to start is STR. But, That would mean I would then be in the Red Bull family so I would either go directly to Red Bull or by losing my place in the family probably slip from F1 as I would not be seen as good enough to keep (as history shows)

At the moment, Haas, they are on the way up without the pressures of Mclaren or Renault and FI is a little unstable at the moment.

Provided I was not still chained to Red Bull, which would not be a bad option, It would be Merc, for no other reasonthan I seen them winning for the next few years.

Ferrari are not my sort of team, I would not like it there.


This is exactly why I chose Macca. Not my cup of tea, but I'd like to give them a chance, see the "opposition"!!!


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Group 1
My heart says Williams but with Paddy Lowe in charge, the car won’t improve.
Sauber is a definitive no due to all the politics there despite the funding.
So it has to be Toro Rosso and getting a foot into the Red Bull program.

Group 2
McLaren have too much work to do sorting the team out to get a decent car. They need a strong technical director with the power to make the changes necessary. If they could hire Boullier then they have a lot to fix! It’s gonna take at least two years to be able to improve and as a young driver, it’s too long to wait.
Renault is another no due to all the politics and in-fighting.
Haas has potential and are having a good season this year but I’m not convinced yet.
Force India has a few issues but the people seem more stable and Otmar Szafnauer seems to know his stuff.

Group 3
Ferrari. As a young driver I believe in my talent and don’t want to think about ever settling for a number 2 role especially when I have more experience. Plus, with Marchionne reportedly retiring in 2019 what impact will this have on Ferrari?
Red Bull. Switching engines will hopefully help move them back up the grid. Christian Horner seems to know what he is on about and their staffing seems stable enough.
Mercedes. Have good experience of fast cars but will the recent technical personnel changes have a knock-on effect into other things. By the time I get to group 3 I think Max will have moved to another team and most likely Mercedes and I’d rather not have him as a team mate.

So ... Toro Rosso, Force India, Red Bull


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