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 Post subject: Re: Bottas vs Raikkonen
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:24 pm 
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Mort Canard wrote:

You are clearly more engaged in the "argument" than in a reasoned discussion. Have it your way.


I am yet to see what exactly your "reasoned discussion" is?

Everyone agrees Vettel made mistakes this year, but in race pace Kimi was nowhere near Vettel is my argument.

You cant then now say Seb was lucky because of Kimi's reliability, it's like saying Kimi was lucky that Seb made mistakes as it would have been worse for him than Bottas.


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 Post subject: Re: Bottas vs Raikkonen
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:07 pm 
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Rockie wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:

You are clearly more engaged in the "argument" than in a reasoned discussion. Have it your way.


I am yet to see what exactly your "reasoned discussion" is?

Everyone agrees Vettel made mistakes this year, but in race pace Kimi was nowhere near Vettel is my argument.

You cant then now say Seb was lucky because of Kimi's reliability, it's like saying Kimi was lucky that Seb made mistakes as it would have been worse for him than Bottas.


That Vettel made mistakes and Kimi didn't isn't luck.


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 Post subject: Re: Bottas vs Raikkonen
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:06 am 
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Rockie wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:
You cant then now say Seb was lucky because of Kimi's reliability, it's like saying Kimi was lucky that Seb made mistakes as it would have been worse for him than Bottas.

If you're discussing their positions in the championship based on driver performance of course you can site better reliability as lucky and not claim a driver was lucky they didn't make mistakes. Mistakes show that driver didn't perform as well as they should/could have...


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