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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:22 am 
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Alesi loos like he could become a decent driver. is he Japanese enough for Honda?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:28 am 
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Alesi loos like he could become a decent driver. is he Japanese enough for Honda?

Yeah, true. Pedro Piquet's not looking too bad, either. And the Piquet's have a pretty good history with Honda, with an F1 WDC and WCC title to boot


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:47 pm 
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Good win by Russell in the end. Looking good for the title hunt for him

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I'm not sure why Norris has been getting all the hype. Russell has been the standout driver in F2 this year for me.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:06 pm 
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Good win by Russell in the end. Looking good for the title hunt for him

:thumbup:

I'm not sure why Norris has been getting all the hype. Russell has been the standout driver in F2 this year for me.

Norris is a year and change younger than Russell and he's basically considered to have the slightly higher ceiling perhaps. I'd agree though that Russell has clearly been a bit more impressive this year overall.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:19 pm 
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F2 has been exciting and competitive so far this year. I’ll be interested to see if Norris getting the nod at McLaren helps or hinders his racing throughout the rest of the season. In some ways, the pressure is slightly off him now and his drive next year is not dependent on his upcoming F2 results. But I have a big admiration for Russell too. When he stands on the podium, he looks so proud and like it REALLY means something to him. Would love to see him in F1 sooner rather than later.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:21 pm 
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I think Norris must have a DRS issue or something as he's right on the gearbox coming into the straight but can't get past

I noticed that one pass he tried to make he hit the rev limiter so maybe the gearing was not ideal for the race?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:22 pm 
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Reverse grid?

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Reverse grid?

er, what?


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pokerman wrote:
Zoue wrote:
I think Norris must have a DRS issue or something as he's right on the gearbox coming into the straight but can't get past

I noticed that one pass he tried to make he hit the rev limiter so maybe the gearing was not ideal for the race?

ah, possibly. Good spot


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:32 pm 
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Zoue wrote:
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Reverse grid?

er, what?

Was it the second race, sprint race, were the top 8 cars are reversed?

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I've looked myself they finished 6th and 7th in the first race so would have started 2nd and 3rd in the second race, Haryanto won 2 races in GP2 with the advantage of a reverse grid, many an average driver has benefited.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:37 pm 
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pokerman wrote:
Zoue wrote:
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Reverse grid?

er, what?

Was it the second race, sprint race, were the top 8 cars are reversed?

were you answering a different post? I wrote a jokey one about seeing the names Piquet and Alesi together and wondering what year we were in, given that the last time those names were racing together was in 1991 . Not sure what that has to do with reverse grids?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:49 pm 
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Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
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Reverse grid?

er, what?

Was it the second race, sprint race, were the top 8 cars are reversed?

were you answering a different post? I wrote a jokey one about seeing the names Piquet and Alesi together and wondering what year we were in, given that the last time those names were racing together was in 1991 . Not sure what that has to do with reverse grids?

You made 2 posts in respect to Alesi and Piquet the first replying to Mikey were you both were praising the drivers, I was merely posting a reality check, sorry I quoted the wrong post you made about Piquet and Alesi which wasn't praising them as such, but does that change what you originally said?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:52 pm 
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pokerman wrote:
Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Reverse grid?

er, what?

Was it the second race, sprint race, were the top 8 cars are reversed?

were you answering a different post? I wrote a jokey one about seeing the names Piquet and Alesi together and wondering what year we were in, given that the last time those names were racing together was in 1991 . Not sure what that has to do with reverse grids?

You made 2 posts in respect to Alesi and Piquet the first replying to Mikey were you both were praising the drivers, I was merely posting a reality check, sorry I quoted the wrong post you made about Piquet and Alesi which wasn't praising them as such, but does that change what you originally said?

Oh OK I see now. No it just threw me as your reply didn't make sense to what I wrote, but yes I see now that you probably intended to reply to the discussion on their respective talents.


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Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Zoue wrote:
er, what?

Was it the second race, sprint race, were the top 8 cars are reversed?

were you answering a different post? I wrote a jokey one about seeing the names Piquet and Alesi together and wondering what year we were in, given that the last time those names were racing together was in 1991 . Not sure what that has to do with reverse grids?

You made 2 posts in respect to Alesi and Piquet the first replying to Mikey were you both were praising the drivers, I was merely posting a reality check, sorry I quoted the wrong post you made about Piquet and Alesi which wasn't praising them as such, but does that change what you originally said?

Oh OK I see now. No it just threw me as your reply didn't make sense to what I wrote, but yes I see now that you probably intended to reply to the discussion on their respective talents.

Yeah sorry for the confusion

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Looks like being another poor weekend for Norris. Terrible start, almost causes a massive crash by putting two guys in the wall, then gets unlucky with a cockup at the pitstop which ruins his chances in the sprint race. Has now dropped behind Alex Albon in the standings. I'm becoming less and less convinced that he's ready to be in F1 as soon as next year, especially given McLaren's recent 'success' with the young drivers they've promoted/given chances to.

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Looks like being another poor weekend for Norris. Terrible start, almost causes a massive crash by putting two guys in the wall, then gets unlucky with a cockup at the pitstop which ruins his chances in the sprint race. Has now dropped behind Alex Albon in the standings. I'm becoming less and less convinced that he's ready to be in F1 as soon as next year, especially given McLaren's recent 'success' with the young drivers they've promoted/given chances to.

On the bright side, he won't have to team with Alonso. I agree though. He's not ready. His performance this season hasn't been as impressive as I expected.


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Have to agree unfortunately but with some mitigating factors perhaps like switching between the F1/F2 cars during race weekends and knowing he doesn't have to win F2 to get an F1 gig, he's got one in his pocket already.

You'd think that would release some pressure and he can just relax and drive freely but people are different and some need that extra motivation to reach their best and taking an eye off the prize can bite you so that could be playing a role.

But Russell has outclassed him this year so it'll be a shame if he can't join him on the F1 grid next year.

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Somehow at turn 1, a big crash was averted. Real dusty track as well!


Norris enters the wrong pit & then leaves without the front right tyre being fitted:

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Lotus49 wrote:
Have to agree unfortunately but with some mitigating factors perhaps like switching between the F1/F2 cars during race weekends and knowing he doesn't have to win F2 to get an F1 gig, he's got one in his pocket already.

You'd think that would release some pressure and he can just relax and drive freely but people are different and some need that extra motivation to reach their best and taking an eye off the prize can bite you so that could be playing a role.

But Russell has outclassed him this year so it'll be a shame if he can't join him on the F1 grid next year.


BIB: There are definitely some mitigating circumstances. I know George Russell opted to not do an FP1 session with Force India earlier in the season so he could concentrate on F2, and Artem Markelov just this past weekend spoke about how difficult it was to go from an F1 car into an F2 car. Plus there were also the issues with the cars themselves, which to be fair didn't affect every driver equally but I recall they did impact Norris. And had the contractual situation with McLaren been different, perhaps he could've missed some of the FP1 sessions to further focus on F2, but obviously McLaren are going to have wanted him in their car so they can properly evaluate him for 2019. Plus as you say, knowing he's most likely going to be on the grid next year (either at McLaren or at Toro Rosso) then perhaps a little complacency has crept in.

At the same time... I really don't rate this year's F2 field. Russell's the class of it, and should really be on the F1 grid next year. Norris has the potential to be a very good F1 driver, but probably shouldn't be graduating to F1 next year. After that there's a drop-off in quality. Albon has already abandoned the idea of getting to F1 and he's the best of the rest. Sette Camara, I feel like he's better than his results suggest, but even then I would draw comparisons to Felipe Nasr. Both Brazilian, both drove for Carlin in their second season and had a number of podiums without winning a race that year. Markelov is all about experience. de Vries just doesn't stand out, and while he has improved as the season has progressed, Prema's results with Gasly and Leclerc (and even Giovinazzi) in their rookie seasons put his second year season in perspective. After that you've got drivers backed by F1 teams such as Ghiotto, Fuoco, Aitken and Latifi, none of whom have shown anything to suggest they'll ever get near an F1 race seat on sheer talent. It doesn't feel like there's even a driver in the midfield who looks like they're going to really kick on in 2019, or a promising young driver. Most of the guys in the lower reaches of the top 10 and below are already in their early 20s, which almost makes them already too old for the F1 of today...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:39 pm 
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George Russell - F2 champion in his rookie year. Same as Hamilton, Rosberg, Hulkenberg & Leclerc. Can't wait to see him in F1 next year.

https://www.racefans.net/2018/11/24/russel-wins-race-and-championship-after-huge-start-crash-in-f2/

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