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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:10 am 
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Anyway he sounds a thoroughly deplorable individual. Let's hope we've seen the last of him in a racing car. I highly doubt Trident will take him back following his ban.

I guess he'll find a seat in the USA.

Hopefully not. It's not like Trump-style hatred is universally popular here, either. Many teams would consider him a PR liability now.

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Anyway he sounds a thoroughly deplorable individual. Let's hope we've seen the last of him in a racing car. I highly doubt Trident will take him back following his ban.

I guess he'll find a seat in the USA.

Hopefully not. It's not like Trump-style hatred is universally popular here, either. Many teams would consider him a PR liability now.


BIB: the thing is, it isn't like he's got a phenomenal (or even halfway decent) junior resume to fall back on. Teams aren't going to be looking at him and seeing a talented kid who has made a mistake, something they could put down to his age/lack of maturity, who needs someone to give him a second chance; they're going to see someone who has shown no pace and (as Exediron says) is a liability on top of that.

Then again if he had enough $$$ to get the development role at Haas, chances are he's got enough $$$ to smooth over any concerns some teams may have.

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Can't say I'm surprised..

No way Haas can keep him on surely?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g515UO-v6Dw

Sounds like an extremely silly boy. His comments and apology show a lot. He's been racing since forever, he should know better


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What a tool. Glad to see the last of him.

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There's a question about him in Miller's Mailbag on Racer.com this week. I don't know what I found more disheartening, the fact that someone was asking if could race in Indycar while suspended, and if he could then why not get him in, or the reply from Miller that he didn't see any reason why not (although the way its worded, this may have just been in relation to the suspension from F2... I hope so). I'd suggest punting your teamate off with premeditation might put a team off, and thats before you get into the 'alleged' racism that he and his father have been accused of.

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What a tool. Glad to see the last of him.


No sir, tools are useful! This guy was just a douche

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What a tool. Glad to see the last of him.

No sir, tools are useful! This guy was just a douche

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Well, hopefully that's the last we'll see of him, and good riddance. I can't imagine that Haas will want to keep him on in any capacity after that, especially considering how stunningly mediocre his accomplishments to date were.

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There's a question about him in Miller's Mailbag on Racer.com this week. I don't know what I found more disheartening, the fact that someone was asking if could race in Indycar while suspended, and if he could then why not get him in, or the reply from Miller that he didn't see any reason why not (although the way its worded, this may have just been in relation to the suspension from F2... I hope so). I'd suggest punting your teamate off with premeditation might put a team off, and thats before you get into the 'alleged' racism that he and his father have been accused of.

Both are fairly disheartening, yes.

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Strongly recommend watching f2 Hungary race 1 :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Amazing display of driving by Norris in the wet the guy was absolutely in a league of his own, Passing guys every where. But then it was all de vries once the track dried up. Carving away at the 14 sec lead Norris had and pulling away 10sec on top of that. This Race really did have the best of both worlds.

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Just watched the first race from last Saturday at Hungary. Holy crap, that has to be one of the best races I have ever seen..... just utterly mesmerising...!!!!


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Just watched the first race from last Saturday at Hungary. Holy crap, that has to be one of the best races I have ever seen..... just utterly mesmerising...!!!!

Gee, I wish I could go back and re-watch it on F1 TV like they promised us... :uhoh:

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Strongly recommend watching f2 Hungary race 1 :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Amazing display of driving by Norris in the wet the guy was absolutely in a league of his own, Passing guys every where. But then it was all de vries once the track dried up. Carving away at the 14 sec lead Norris had and pulling away 10sec on top of that. This Race really did have the best of both worlds.


Did not watch the race, (no Sky) but in the report Norris says he had a broken front wing, which is why he lost ground.

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Syholl wrote:
Just watched the first race from last Saturday at Hungary. Holy crap, that has to be one of the best races I have ever seen..... just utterly mesmerising...!!!!


:thumbup: :nod:

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Just watched the first race from last Saturday at Hungary. Holy crap, that has to be one of the best races I have ever seen..... just utterly mesmerising...!!!!

Gee, I wish I could go back and re-watch it on F1 TV like they promised us... :uhoh:


ESPN app allows you to rewatch races. ( just checked and it has races as far back as Silverstone.)

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Did not watch the race, (no Sky) but in the report Norris says he had a broken front wing, which is why he lost ground.

I stress I did not watch it, just read it.


Makes sense (if Norris is telling the truth) Don’t recall seeing any contact would have to watch it once more. Also for those who didn’t watch it, you can still catch it on the espn app if you have it. Great race as mentioned before STRONGLY RECOMMEND IT.

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Definitely worth watching even if you know the result. Norris 2 car pass in the sprint race was pretty special too. Russel v Norris is shaping up nicely and I'd love to see Russel in a Williams next year. A decent Williams preferably...

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Yeah, it was one heck of a race - maybe Bernie's sprinkler idea wasn't so bad !

It had everything in it - gotta love a race on a drying track.

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Mayhem wrote:
Strongly recommend watching f2 Hungary race 1 :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Amazing display of driving by Norris in the wet the guy was absolutely in a league of his own, Passing guys every where. But then it was all de vries once the track dried up. Carving away at the 14 sec lead Norris had and pulling away 10sec on top of that. This Race really did have the best of both worlds.

Apparently Norris had a partial wet set up as opposed to many of the other cars hence the lack of pace when it dried out.

We kind of see this in the sprint race when Norris was much quicker than de Vries, he passed him and left him.

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moby wrote:
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Strongly recommend watching f2 Hungary race 1 :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Amazing display of driving by Norris in the wet the guy was absolutely in a league of his own, Passing guys every where. But then it was all de vries once the track dried up. Carving away at the 14 sec lead Norris had and pulling away 10sec on top of that. This Race really did have the best of both worlds.


Did not watch the race, (no Sky) but in the report Norris says he had a broken front wing, which is why he lost ground.

I stress I did not watch it, just read it.

Fair enough I put that down to his set up, I did see him go off the track soon after he pitted for dry tyres with the track still being damp in places, I wonder if he damaged it then?

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Once again the F2 was a considerably better racing spectacle than the F1. It is really noticeable how easy it is for the cars to follow each other through the corners and how much this improves the racing. I also can't help but notice that the F2 drivers are much more respectful and aware of each other when racing wheel-to-wheel, when they are supposed to be the inexperienced drivers.


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Once again the F2 was a considerably better racing spectacle than the F1. It is really noticeable how easy it is for the cars to follow each other through the corners and how much this improves the racing. I also can't help but notice that the F2 drivers are much more respectful and aware of each other when racing wheel-to-wheel, when they are supposed to be the inexperienced drivers.

That's not something I would ever accuse the F2 drivers of. I haven't watched this race yet, but in general I think they're much more inexperienced and it shows. Only Formula E usually has more avoidable contact than F2. Aside from at the start, F1 drivers tend to keep it quite clan (and they did again this weekend).

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Once again the F2 was a considerably better racing spectacle than the F1. It is really noticeable how easy it is for the cars to follow each other through the corners and how much this improves the racing. I also can't help but notice that the F2 drivers are much more respectful and aware of each other when racing wheel-to-wheel, when they are supposed to be the inexperienced drivers.

That's not something I would ever accuse the F2 drivers of. I haven't watched this race yet, but in general I think they're much more inexperienced and it shows. Only Formula E usually has more avoidable contact than F2. Aside from at the start, F1 drivers tend to keep it quite clan (and they did again this weekend).

You do get a few boneheaded manoeuvres, particularly from the drivers in the lower half of the field, but overall I think there is actually surprisingly little contact in the F2 races, especially when you consider how much more overtaking actually occurs. What particularly stuck in my mind from this weekend was Norris and Markelov going side by side through Les Combes without shoving each other off the track on the corner exits as is sadly normal practice in F1.

Baku was perhaps the most glaring example of where the driving standard was considerably higher in the F2 races than in the F1. My feeling is that with overtaking being easier the drivers don't need to be so ruthless with each other because they know they will get another opportunity to pass.


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Exediron wrote:
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Once again the F2 was a considerably better racing spectacle than the F1. It is really noticeable how easy it is for the cars to follow each other through the corners and how much this improves the racing. I also can't help but notice that the F2 drivers are much more respectful and aware of each other when racing wheel-to-wheel, when they are supposed to be the inexperienced drivers.

That's not something I would ever accuse the F2 drivers of. I haven't watched this race yet, but in general I think they're much more inexperienced and it shows. Only Formula E usually has more avoidable contact than F2. Aside from at the start, F1 drivers tend to keep it quite clan (and they did again this weekend).

I'm not sure what F2 races you have watched to suggest that the racing is not clean, also the F1 comparison couldn't have been more badly timed.

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Once again the F2 was a considerably better racing spectacle than the F1. It is really noticeable how easy it is for the cars to follow each other through the corners and how much this improves the racing. I also can't help but notice that the F2 drivers are much more respectful and aware of each other when racing wheel-to-wheel, when they are supposed to be the inexperienced drivers.

That's not something I would ever accuse the F2 drivers of. I haven't watched this race yet, but in general I think they're much more inexperienced and it shows. Only Formula E usually has more avoidable contact than F2. Aside from at the start, F1 drivers tend to keep it quite clan (and they did again this weekend).

I'm not sure what F2 races you have watched to suggest that the racing is not clean, also the F1 comparison couldn't have been more badly timed.

Indeed. At least all 20 of the F2 drivers remembered to brake for the first corner ;)


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GP3 drivers taking the gherkin out of track limits. Calderon skipped every chicane on the first lap and the first chicane on the second and shes certainly not the only offender. Drivers just braking as late as possible and who cares if they can't make the corner? You don't lose anything by straight lining it. I'm sure the F1 drivers will be watching.


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GP3 drivers taking the gherkin out of track limits. Calderon skipped every chicane on the first lap and the first chicane on the second and shes certainly not the only offender. Drivers just braking as late as possible and who cares if they can't make the corner? You don't lose anything by straight lining it. I'm sure the F1 drivers will be watching.

it's pretty slippery, though. Mazepin just had to take avoiding action and skip the chicane instead of ploughing into the back of Pulcini


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GP3 drivers taking the gherkin out of track limits. Calderon skipped every chicane on the first lap and the first chicane on the second and shes certainly not the only offender. Drivers just braking as late as possible and who cares if they can't make the corner? You don't lose anything by straight lining it. I'm sure the F1 drivers will be watching.

it's pretty slippery, though. Mazepin just had to take avoiding action and skip the chicane instead of ploughing into the back of Pulcini


Yeah i don't blame him on that one. Slippery or not if you can't control your car then you shouldn't be able to maintain position with someone who can. It's unfair. The driver skilled enough to judge the corner properly should be able to get an advantage.

Edit - It's the way it changes how drivers approach a corner that annoys me the most. The concrete run off takes so much skill out of the challenge.


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mikeyg123 wrote:
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GP3 drivers taking the gherkin out of track limits. Calderon skipped every chicane on the first lap and the first chicane on the second and shes certainly not the only offender. Drivers just braking as late as possible and who cares if they can't make the corner? You don't lose anything by straight lining it. I'm sure the F1 drivers will be watching.

it's pretty slippery, though. Mazepin just had to take avoiding action and skip the chicane instead of ploughing into the back of Pulcini


Yeah i don't blame him on that one. Slippery or not if you can't control your car then you shouldn't be able to maintain position with someone who can. It's unfair. The driver skilled enough to judge the corner properly should be able to get an advantage.

Edit - It's the way it changes how drivers approach a corner that annoys me the most. The concrete run off takes so much skill out of the challenge.

yeah I'm with you on that one. I'm inclined to be forgiving of the first lap while drivers are testing the limits of a slippery track, but otherwise yeah they should do as you say :thumbup:

On another note, Beckman's just piling on the fastest laps. Looking pretty handy out front


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Calderon putting up a fairly sprightly defence against Piquet it has to be said. Although generally she's going backwards fast


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I've seen some great driving in GP3 this season but not today.


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so weird to see Alesi and Piquet racing each other today :lol:


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Alesi's just bolted a turbo onto his car. He's flying


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Is Mazepin even trying to take most of these corners? Alesi thriving on a drying track, where have I seen that before? :)


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Right, Mazepin has been ridiculous. There should be a so many strikes and you're out rule in regards to jumping corners.


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yeah, agree. Mazepin was playing very fast and loose with the track limits, that's for sure


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Piquet beats Alesi for the win! What year are we in again?

https://www.crash.net/open-wheel/news/904631/1/piquet-beats-alesi-head-trident-12-monza-gp3-thriller


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Terrible start for the front runners in the F2 race


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ooh costly mistake by Russell there


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I think Norris must have a DRS issue or something as he's right on the gearbox coming into the straight but can't get past


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Good win by Russell in the end. Looking good for the title hunt for him


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