MB-BOB wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
MB-BOB wrote:
froze wrote:
Basically they set a precedent, that you can knock another car out and get away with just a 10 second penalty. Such scenario could come in handy many times, especially when a championship is on the line later on.
Back in the 60's-70's, you didn't dare knock out another car, because it could mean your life, or another's. Today's bumper cars make it safer and more understandable to hip-check another car to the side. But that doesn't make it acceptable.
The slap on the wrist time penalties simply don't fit the "crime."
And a 10-second penalty is nothiung more than a joke, considering that in the past, people have died, instead.
I'm sorry, what a nonsensical sentence... People died in the past, but what does this have to do with anything? This is 2018, times change and cars are safer, shall we penalise them for that? People also used to challenge each other in duels, shall we revert to that?
Plus, you are overreacting here; NO driver risks hitting their cars intentionally. Yes it doesn't cost anyone's life anymore, but why would anyone risk any kind of damage costing them points? They way some posters write is like they are in Super Mario Kartland... It's not, no driver would rather hit someone risking damage. Max made contact as he misjudged his breaking point, he didn't try to ram Vettel off the track, so why comparing this failed overtake to intentionally knocking out other cars? Beggars belief...
It just leaves bad taste as the culprit finished ahead of the victim, I agree with this. Maybe they should revisit the penalty system, yes, but don't overreact.
You should be sorry, indeed. My opinion is mine, and your opinoin is yours. My post was neither nonsensical nor overreacting, and your personal attack is not warranted.
Verstappen (and others) fully decide to divebomb in these situations, coldly calculating that either they get through, or they risk damage, possibly race-ending damage. So, it's my opinion that Verstappen "intentionally risks" hitting another car, thinking the risk is worth the potential reward. To suggest he thinks otherwise is to think he is just stupid, instead, so I give Verstappen the benefit of the doubt.
Point is, there is little risk to life or limb as in the past, so why not go for it... the worse that can happen is that he punts himself from the race, or in this case, acquires a worthless 10-second penalty that he can make up in just a few laps.
State your opinion, but keep the condescending remarks to yourself.
Good grief, touchy are we?
Pray tell, where did I attack you personally? Feel free to report me to the mods if you feel wronged, though you'll find that I commented on the opinion (see the word "sentence", not "poster" or something); but even then I didn't stop you from posting it, did I? Don't be so sensitive, I can assure you it is not a personal attack, if you got confused. I do recognise that your last post makes more sense though, a bit more insight as to why you think Verstappen did it on purpose.
Not that I agree with it; no driver, especially at the front, wants to risk these manoeuvres. There's one driver that blatantly uses the old Senna "out of the way or else" move, Ricciardo, and people are calling his moves out, just read this forum. The worst that can happen is not just that he can punt himself out of the race. It is risk of damage to the car, loss of points for him and the team and money for repairs, license points, the list is long for the off chance that you may gain a position that you may lose later in the race anyway. Verstappen's demeanour after the race says it all, it was a mistake, he apologised, hopefully learnt his lesson and life goes on.
I also can't see how you give him the benefit of the doubt when you say that he decided cold blooded to divebomb risking taking both cars out. You are painting him as a madman without even contemplating that it could just be a mistake, that's how it comes across. Making a mistake is not suggesting that he is just stupid by the way, otherwise every single driver is a moron... Since they all do mistakes. A very logical and simple explanation really.