planetf1.com
It is currently Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:29 am

View unanswered posts | View active topics


Board index » F1 & Motorsport Forum

All times are UTC


Forum rules


Please read the forum rules



Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 2 of 5
  [ 169 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
UnlikeUday
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:36 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:53 pm
Posts: 7199
Location: Mumbai, India
Ricciardo's qualy could be in jeopardy unless the mechanics replace the necessary parts before qualy which won't be easy:

https://wtf1.com/post/ricciardo-may-not-make-qualifying-after-yet-another-car-issue/


_________________
Feel The Fourth
Top
 Profile  
 
UnlikeUday
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:49 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:53 pm
Posts: 7199
Location: Mumbai, India
Ferrari power more than Mercedes:

Image
Source - www.Twitter.com

_________________
Feel The Fourth
Top
 Profile  
 
mikeyg123
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:59 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:13 pm
Posts: 14395
Ferrari look like they have jumped Merc in terms of engine. Good to see it is at least possible
Top
 Profile  
 
Blackhander
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:06 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:22 am
Posts: 1849
Location: Brisbane, Australia
New and ultra aggressive qualifying strategy from Renault this race! If someone looks like they'll out qualify you just leave big parts of their engine off! Simple really!

_________________
PF1 Pick 10 Competition
Podiums: 1st Spa '16, 1st Bahrain '15, 1st China '14, 1st Malaysia '14
Championship position 2014: 13th | | 2015: 10th (heading the right way)
PF1 Autosport GP Predictor 2014: Second 2015: Second
Top
 Profile  
 
lucifers
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:33 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:33 pm
Posts: 361
Mercedes not looking good
Top
 Profile  
 
TSA1981
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:40 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:54 pm
Posts: 72
It seems that Merc "found" that magick button again...

After this q2 the Merc "Party mode" is proofed 100%


Last edited by TSA1981 on Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:46 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
iano
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:46 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed May 27, 2009 12:49 am
Posts: 316
Strategy mistake in qualifying for red bull.

Both drivers banked their first laps in q2 on ultras..... why not come out again on softs and just see if you can beat your time on ultras?
Top
 Profile  
 
lucifers
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:54 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:33 pm
Posts: 361
Ferrari has this in the bag
Top
 Profile  
 
mikeyg123
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:02 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:13 pm
Posts: 14395
TSA1981 wrote:
It seems that Merc "found" that magick button again...

After this q2 the Merc "Party mode" is proofed 100%


And after Q3, Ferrari's as well?
Top
 Profile  
 
Warheart01
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:02 am 
Ferrari dominant.
Kimi giving Vettel a huge run for his money.
Top
  
 
Syholl
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:03 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:07 am
Posts: 64
Well done Ferrari, looks like it’s going to be a tough race for Mercedes!!
Top
 Profile  
 
UnlikeUday
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:03 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:53 pm
Posts: 7199
Location: Mumbai, India
Weren't cooler conditions supposed to favour Mercedes? Ferrari surely have caught up, including Raikkonen!

_________________
Feel The Fourth
Top
 Profile  
 
Herb
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:05 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:42 pm
Posts: 2051
Scruffy last corner cost Kimi I think. Shame. I'd have liked to have seen him on pole.

_________________
Top Three Team Champions 2017 (With Jezza13)
Group Pick 'Em 2016 Champion
Top
 Profile  
 
Laz_T800
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:06 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed May 27, 2015 7:11 pm
Posts: 723
Mercedes are now looking firmly behind the Ferrari for outright pace.
Top
 Profile  
 
RaggedMan
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:07 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:00 pm
Posts: 4808
Why so quiet around here this morning?
Good job for Ricciardo's crew to get his car out for Q1. Some interesting strategy playing out in Q2 with Ferrari and Mercedes starting on the softs and RBR on the ultras could make for an interesting T1 tomorrow if Max or Dan make a flying start.

_________________
{Insert clever sig line here}
Top
 Profile  
 
lamo
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:08 am 
It’s all switched around, Ferrari it seems have the engine. Ferrari have the qualifying pace. Mercedes closer / possibly ahead on race pace and tyre preservation.

The opposite of last year.
Top
  
 
Warheart01
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:10 am 
RaggedMan wrote:
Why so quiet around here this morning?
Good job for Ricciardo's crew to get his car out for Q1. Some interesting strategy playing out in Q2 with Ferrari and Mercedes starting on the softs and RBR on the ultras could make for an interesting T1 tomorrow if Max or Dan make a flying start.


There is your answer mate. ;)
Top
  
 
UnlikeUday
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:10 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:53 pm
Posts: 7199
Location: Mumbai, India
Laz_T800 wrote:
Mercedes are now looking firmly behind the Ferrari for outright pace.


That's good for the 2018 season, ain't it? Need some unpredictability.

_________________
Feel The Fourth
Top
 Profile  
 
Lotus49
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:10 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:36 pm
Posts: 5104
This season is so weird so far. Lots of huge swings in performance track to track and between team mates and Kimi looks like 2005 Kimi and Ferrari look like 2007/8 Ferrari.

Got to be the new tyre compounds right?

_________________
"Clark came through at the end of the first lap so far ahead that we in the pits were convinced that the rest of the field must have been wiped out in an accident."
-Eddie Dennis, describing the dominance of Jim Clark in the Lotus 49 at Spa 1967
Top
 Profile  
 
Warheart01
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:12 am 
lamo wrote:
It’s all switched around, Ferrari it seems have the engine. Ferrari have the qualifying pace. Mercedes closer / possibly ahead on race pace and tyre preservation.

The opposite of last year.


Jep, it has turned. This is on merit while Australia was a bit of a lottery, Bahrain was a Hamilton grid penalty. But this, Mercedes has no excuses. The Ferrari is faster down the straight too.
Atleast in Mercedes the drivers are allowed to race each other.
Top
  
 
kleefton
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:12 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:14 pm
Posts: 3556
Looks like Merc is closer to Ferrari on the soft tire. On the US, they are miles off. Ferrari is so far ahead in qualifying right now. How did they do it?
Shame Rai didn't get pole. Congrats to Vettel. Not a good weekend from Lewis so far. Great job by Ricciardo.
Top
 Profile  
 
Rockie
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:13 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:13 am
Posts: 1728
Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.
Top
 Profile  
 
Warheart01
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:13 am 
UnlikeUday wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
Mercedes are now looking firmly behind the Ferrari for outright pace.


That's good for the 2018 season, ain't it? Need some unpredictability.


How is it unpredictable when the domination is just turned to another team? It will be the exact same thing, only with a red car and a team that doesn't allow teammates to race, which one of them is very happy with.


Last edited by Warheart01 on Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:14 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
  
 
nabby81
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:14 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:25 pm
Posts: 6
Merc not looking good on the Ultra's at all especially Lewis .Closer on the softs but so far 3 races in Ferrari look to have the better package
Top
 Profile  
 
TheGiantHogweed
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:14 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:15 am
Posts: 1578
Am I right in that in qualifying, Bottas generally seems as good or better than Hamilton when Ferrari are better? Ferrari looked better last year in Russia. Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Monaco, Hamilton broke down under pressure, Bottas 3rd. Hungary, Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Then even Mexico when Ferrari were better, Bottas was very close behind Hamilton. Then Ferrari looked better last qualifying in Bahrain, 3rd and 4th in the same order again. And yet again, Ferrari are better here, and same for Hamilton and Bottas.. I honestly think Bottas possibly has better 1 lap pace than Hamilton when Ferrari is a better car, but what sense does this make? Does Hamilton just sometimes struggle when he's not far better than everyone else?


Last edited by TheGiantHogweed on Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:24 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
Rockie
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:19 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:13 am
Posts: 1728
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Am I right in that in qualifying, Bottas generally seems as good or better than Hamilton when Ferrari are better? Ferrari looked better last year in Russia. Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Monaco, Hamilton broke down under pressure, Bottas 3rd. Hungary, Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Then even Mexico when Ferrari were better, Bottas was very close behind Hamilton. Then Ferrari looked better last qualifying in Bahrain, 3rd and 4th int he same order again. And yet again, Ferrari are better here, and same for Hamilton and Bottas yet again. I honestly think Bottas possibly has better 1 lap pace than Hamilton when Ferrari is a better car, but what sense does this make? Does Hamilton just sometimes struggle when he's not far better than anyone else?


You might be on to something.
Top
 Profile  
 
UnlikeUday
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:27 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:53 pm
Posts: 7199
Location: Mumbai, India
Warheart01 wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
Mercedes are now looking firmly behind the Ferrari for outright pace.


That's good for the 2018 season, ain't it? Need some unpredictability.


How is it unpredictable when the domination is just turned to another team? It will be the exact same thing, only with a red car and a team that doesn't allow teammates to race, which one of them is very happy with.


I don't think Ferrari will dominate every race this calendar.

_________________
Feel The Fourth
Top
 Profile  
 
pokerman
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:43 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:30 pm
Posts: 29601
mikeyg123 wrote:
TSA1981 wrote:
It seems that Merc "found" that magick button again...

After this q2 the Merc "Party mode" is proofed 100%


And after Q3, Ferrari's as well?

Some things are set in stone like Hamilton passing 3 cars in one go on the straight all because it was said by one solely by the Mercedes engine not DRS as such.

_________________
PF1 Pick 10 Competition

2013: 5th Place
2014: Champion
2015: 3rd Place
2016: 4th Place
2017: 9th Place
2018: 7th place

Wins: Canada 2018, Abu Dhabi 2017
Podiums: (6)
Top
 Profile  
 
pokerman
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:47 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:30 pm
Posts: 29601
Rockie wrote:
Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.

Yeah he destroyed Kimi by 0.089s :lol:

_________________
PF1 Pick 10 Competition

2013: 5th Place
2014: Champion
2015: 3rd Place
2016: 4th Place
2017: 9th Place
2018: 7th place

Wins: Canada 2018, Abu Dhabi 2017
Podiums: (6)
Top
 Profile  
 
pokerman
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:49 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:30 pm
Posts: 29601
nabby81 wrote:
Merc not looking good on the Ultra's at all especially Lewis .Closer on the softs but so far 3 races in Ferrari look to have the better package

Really soft tyres that struggle to last even 1 lap have never suited him, he has always had a tendency to be better on harder tyres, Kimi for instance I would say would be the opposite.

_________________
PF1 Pick 10 Competition

2013: 5th Place
2014: Champion
2015: 3rd Place
2016: 4th Place
2017: 9th Place
2018: 7th place

Wins: Canada 2018, Abu Dhabi 2017
Podiums: (6)


Last edited by pokerman on Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
pokerman
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:51 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:30 pm
Posts: 29601
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Am I right in that in qualifying, Bottas generally seems as good or better than Hamilton when Ferrari are better? Ferrari looked better last year in Russia. Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Monaco, Hamilton broke down under pressure, Bottas 3rd. Hungary, Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Then even Mexico when Ferrari were better, Bottas was very close behind Hamilton. Then Ferrari looked better last qualifying in Bahrain, 3rd and 4th in the same order again. And yet again, Ferrari are better here, and same for Hamilton and Bottas.. I honestly think Bottas possibly has better 1 lap pace than Hamilton when Ferrari is a better car, but what sense does this make? Does Hamilton just sometimes struggle when he's not far better than everyone else?

Yeah that seems to be the case, some times last year that was put down to Hamilton over driving trying to make up the difference.

_________________
PF1 Pick 10 Competition

2013: 5th Place
2014: Champion
2015: 3rd Place
2016: 4th Place
2017: 9th Place
2018: 7th place

Wins: Canada 2018, Abu Dhabi 2017
Podiums: (6)
Top
 Profile  
 
Rockie
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:52 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:13 am
Posts: 1728
pokerman wrote:
Rockie wrote:
Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.

Yeah he destroyed Kimi by 0.089s :lol:


Well you don't need to be 1 second clear for it to be a monster lap, he was behind in S1 and 2 and found something in S3.
Top
 Profile  
 
pokerman
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:52 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:30 pm
Posts: 29601
UnlikeUday wrote:
Warheart01 wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
Mercedes are now looking firmly behind the Ferrari for outright pace.


That's good for the 2018 season, ain't it? Need some unpredictability.


How is it unpredictable when the domination is just turned to another team? It will be the exact same thing, only with a red car and a team that doesn't allow teammates to race, which one of them is very happy with.


I don't think Ferrari will dominate every race this calendar.

I'm just wondering though wouldn't you have considered last year to be unpredictable?

_________________
PF1 Pick 10 Competition

2013: 5th Place
2014: Champion
2015: 3rd Place
2016: 4th Place
2017: 9th Place
2018: 7th place

Wins: Canada 2018, Abu Dhabi 2017
Podiums: (6)
Top
 Profile  
 
pokerman
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:58 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:30 pm
Posts: 29601
Rockie wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Rockie wrote:
Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.

Yeah he destroyed Kimi by 0.089s :lol:


Well you don't need to be 1 second clear for it to be a monster lap, he was behind in S1 and 2 and found something in S3.

I don't think you know the definition of a monster lap particularly when it relates to beating an identical car.

_________________
PF1 Pick 10 Competition

2013: 5th Place
2014: Champion
2015: 3rd Place
2016: 4th Place
2017: 9th Place
2018: 7th place

Wins: Canada 2018, Abu Dhabi 2017
Podiums: (6)
Top
 Profile  
 
AravJ
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:04 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:42 am
Posts: 980
I think merc bricked their setup or compromised for the race. They are only 2 to 3 tenths ahead of RBR and in party mode at that. Don't think Ferrari and RBR could have improved that much.
Nice to see Kimi pushing Seb.
Merc cannot rely on their dominance any more if they get their set up wrong as they did on the past few years.
Top
 Profile  
 
Rockie
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:06 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:13 am
Posts: 1728
pokerman wrote:
Rockie wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Rockie wrote:
Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.

Yeah he destroyed Kimi by 0.089s :lol:


Well you don't need to be 1 second clear for it to be a monster lap, he was behind in S1 and 2 and found something in S3.

I don't think you know the definition of a monster lap particularly when it relates to beating an identical car.


I'm in good company as most commentators and journalists think it was a monster lap as well.
Top
 Profile  
 
Asphalt_World
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:10 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 12, 2011 6:08 pm
Posts: 3667
Rockie wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Rockie wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Rockie wrote:
Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.

Yeah he destroyed Kimi by 0.089s :lol:


Well you don't need to be 1 second clear for it to be a monster lap, he was behind in S1 and 2 and found something in S3.

I don't think you know the definition of a monster lap particularly when it relates to beating an identical car.


I'm in good company as most commentators and journalists think it was a monster lap as well.


It wasn't Hamilton so can't be considered a 'Monster Lap'. ;)

_________________
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. [Lord Acton]
My own Google Earth Motor Sport file. http://www.mediafire.com/?jzm1ieatytv
Follow me @asphalt_world
Top
 Profile  
 
Zoue
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:10 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:39 am
Posts: 24281
Lotus49 wrote:
This season is so weird so far. Lots of huge swings in performance track to track and between team mates and Kimi looks like 2005 Kimi and Ferrari look like 2007/8 Ferrari.

Got to be the new tyre compounds right?

I reckon that plays a big part, certainly in Kimi's case. I've always said the tyres are his biggest limiting factor.

Gotta feel for Kimi today. Dominated first two sectors and to get pipped at the post like that must hurt!
Top
 Profile  
 
Zoue
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:15 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:39 am
Posts: 24281
pokerman wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Am I right in that in qualifying, Bottas generally seems as good or better than Hamilton when Ferrari are better? Ferrari looked better last year in Russia. Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Monaco, Hamilton broke down under pressure, Bottas 3rd. Hungary, Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Then even Mexico when Ferrari were better, Bottas was very close behind Hamilton. Then Ferrari looked better last qualifying in Bahrain, 3rd and 4th in the same order again. And yet again, Ferrari are better here, and same for Hamilton and Bottas.. I honestly think Bottas possibly has better 1 lap pace than Hamilton when Ferrari is a better car, but what sense does this make? Does Hamilton just sometimes struggle when he's not far better than everyone else?

Yeah that seems to be the case, some times last year that was put down to Hamilton over driving trying to make up the difference.

Might be something in that. When the car isn't the outright best there is more scope for the drivers to make errors trying to compensate
Top
 Profile  
 
pokerman
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:15 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:30 pm
Posts: 29601
Rockie wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Rockie wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Rockie wrote:
Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.

Yeah he destroyed Kimi by 0.089s :lol:


Well you don't need to be 1 second clear for it to be a monster lap, he was behind in S1 and 2 and found something in S3.

I don't think you know the definition of a monster lap particularly when it relates to beating an identical car.


I'm in good company as most commentators and journalists think it was a monster lap as well.

You know I heard one commentator saying how perfect Vettel's lap was through the first 2 sectors and then sort of contradicted himself by mentioning that Kimi had gone even quicker, so Kimi must have been on a Godzilla lap at that point?

_________________
PF1 Pick 10 Competition

2013: 5th Place
2014: Champion
2015: 3rd Place
2016: 4th Place
2017: 9th Place
2018: 7th place

Wins: Canada 2018, Abu Dhabi 2017
Podiums: (6)
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 2 of 5
  [ 169 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

Board index » F1 & Motorsport Forum

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Black_Flag_11, Dom1511 and 1 guest

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group