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UnlikeUday
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:36 am 
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Ricciardo's qualy could be in jeopardy unless the mechanics replace the necessary parts before qualy which won't be easy:

https://wtf1.com/post/ricciardo-may-not-make-qualifying-after-yet-another-car-issue/


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Ferrari power more than Mercedes:

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Ferrari look like they have jumped Merc in terms of engine. Good to see it is at least possible
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New and ultra aggressive qualifying strategy from Renault this race! If someone looks like they'll out qualify you just leave big parts of their engine off! Simple really!

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Mercedes not looking good
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It seems that Merc "found" that magick button again...

After this q2 the Merc "Party mode" is proofed 100%


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Strategy mistake in qualifying for red bull.

Both drivers banked their first laps in q2 on ultras..... why not come out again on softs and just see if you can beat your time on ultras?
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Ferrari has this in the bag
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TSA1981 wrote:
It seems that Merc "found" that magick button again...

After this q2 the Merc "Party mode" is proofed 100%


And after Q3, Ferrari's as well?
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Warheart01
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:02 am 
Ferrari dominant.
Kimi giving Vettel a huge run for his money.
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Well done Ferrari, looks like it’s going to be a tough race for Mercedes!!
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Weren't cooler conditions supposed to favour Mercedes? Ferrari surely have caught up, including Raikkonen!

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Scruffy last corner cost Kimi I think. Shame. I'd have liked to have seen him on pole.

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Mercedes are now looking firmly behind the Ferrari for outright pace.
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Why so quiet around here this morning?
Good job for Ricciardo's crew to get his car out for Q1. Some interesting strategy playing out in Q2 with Ferrari and Mercedes starting on the softs and RBR on the ultras could make for an interesting T1 tomorrow if Max or Dan make a flying start.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:08 am 
It’s all switched around, Ferrari it seems have the engine. Ferrari have the qualifying pace. Mercedes closer / possibly ahead on race pace and tyre preservation.

The opposite of last year.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:10 am 
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Why so quiet around here this morning?
Good job for Ricciardo's crew to get his car out for Q1. Some interesting strategy playing out in Q2 with Ferrari and Mercedes starting on the softs and RBR on the ultras could make for an interesting T1 tomorrow if Max or Dan make a flying start.


There is your answer mate. ;)
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Mercedes are now looking firmly behind the Ferrari for outright pace.


That's good for the 2018 season, ain't it? Need some unpredictability.

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This season is so weird so far. Lots of huge swings in performance track to track and between team mates and Kimi looks like 2005 Kimi and Ferrari look like 2007/8 Ferrari.

Got to be the new tyre compounds right?

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Warheart01
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:12 am 
lamo wrote:
It’s all switched around, Ferrari it seems have the engine. Ferrari have the qualifying pace. Mercedes closer / possibly ahead on race pace and tyre preservation.

The opposite of last year.


Jep, it has turned. This is on merit while Australia was a bit of a lottery, Bahrain was a Hamilton grid penalty. But this, Mercedes has no excuses. The Ferrari is faster down the straight too.
Atleast in Mercedes the drivers are allowed to race each other.
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Looks like Merc is closer to Ferrari on the soft tire. On the US, they are miles off. Ferrari is so far ahead in qualifying right now. How did they do it?
Shame Rai didn't get pole. Congrats to Vettel. Not a good weekend from Lewis so far. Great job by Ricciardo.
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Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:13 am 
UnlikeUday wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
Mercedes are now looking firmly behind the Ferrari for outright pace.


That's good for the 2018 season, ain't it? Need some unpredictability.


How is it unpredictable when the domination is just turned to another team? It will be the exact same thing, only with a red car and a team that doesn't allow teammates to race, which one of them is very happy with.


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Merc not looking good on the Ultra's at all especially Lewis .Closer on the softs but so far 3 races in Ferrari look to have the better package
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Am I right in that in qualifying, Bottas generally seems as good or better than Hamilton when Ferrari are better? Ferrari looked better last year in Russia. Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Monaco, Hamilton broke down under pressure, Bottas 3rd. Hungary, Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Then even Mexico when Ferrari were better, Bottas was very close behind Hamilton. Then Ferrari looked better last qualifying in Bahrain, 3rd and 4th in the same order again. And yet again, Ferrari are better here, and same for Hamilton and Bottas.. I honestly think Bottas possibly has better 1 lap pace than Hamilton when Ferrari is a better car, but what sense does this make? Does Hamilton just sometimes struggle when he's not far better than everyone else?


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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Am I right in that in qualifying, Bottas generally seems as good or better than Hamilton when Ferrari are better? Ferrari looked better last year in Russia. Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Monaco, Hamilton broke down under pressure, Bottas 3rd. Hungary, Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Then even Mexico when Ferrari were better, Bottas was very close behind Hamilton. Then Ferrari looked better last qualifying in Bahrain, 3rd and 4th int he same order again. And yet again, Ferrari are better here, and same for Hamilton and Bottas yet again. I honestly think Bottas possibly has better 1 lap pace than Hamilton when Ferrari is a better car, but what sense does this make? Does Hamilton just sometimes struggle when he's not far better than anyone else?


You might be on to something.
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Warheart01 wrote:
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Mercedes are now looking firmly behind the Ferrari for outright pace.


That's good for the 2018 season, ain't it? Need some unpredictability.


How is it unpredictable when the domination is just turned to another team? It will be the exact same thing, only with a red car and a team that doesn't allow teammates to race, which one of them is very happy with.


I don't think Ferrari will dominate every race this calendar.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
TSA1981 wrote:
It seems that Merc "found" that magick button again...

After this q2 the Merc "Party mode" is proofed 100%


And after Q3, Ferrari's as well?

Some things are set in stone like Hamilton passing 3 cars in one go on the straight all because it was said by one solely by the Mercedes engine not DRS as such.

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Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.

Yeah he destroyed Kimi by 0.089s :lol:

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Merc not looking good on the Ultra's at all especially Lewis .Closer on the softs but so far 3 races in Ferrari look to have the better package

Really soft tyres that struggle to last even 1 lap have never suited him, he has always had a tendency to be better on harder tyres, Kimi for instance I would say would be the opposite.

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Am I right in that in qualifying, Bottas generally seems as good or better than Hamilton when Ferrari are better? Ferrari looked better last year in Russia. Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Monaco, Hamilton broke down under pressure, Bottas 3rd. Hungary, Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Then even Mexico when Ferrari were better, Bottas was very close behind Hamilton. Then Ferrari looked better last qualifying in Bahrain, 3rd and 4th in the same order again. And yet again, Ferrari are better here, and same for Hamilton and Bottas.. I honestly think Bottas possibly has better 1 lap pace than Hamilton when Ferrari is a better car, but what sense does this make? Does Hamilton just sometimes struggle when he's not far better than everyone else?

Yeah that seems to be the case, some times last year that was put down to Hamilton over driving trying to make up the difference.

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Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.

Yeah he destroyed Kimi by 0.089s :lol:


Well you don't need to be 1 second clear for it to be a monster lap, he was behind in S1 and 2 and found something in S3.
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UnlikeUday wrote:
Warheart01 wrote:
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Mercedes are now looking firmly behind the Ferrari for outright pace.


That's good for the 2018 season, ain't it? Need some unpredictability.


How is it unpredictable when the domination is just turned to another team? It will be the exact same thing, only with a red car and a team that doesn't allow teammates to race, which one of them is very happy with.


I don't think Ferrari will dominate every race this calendar.

I'm just wondering though wouldn't you have considered last year to be unpredictable?

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Rockie wrote:
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Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.

Yeah he destroyed Kimi by 0.089s :lol:


Well you don't need to be 1 second clear for it to be a monster lap, he was behind in S1 and 2 and found something in S3.

I don't think you know the definition of a monster lap particularly when it relates to beating an identical car.

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I think merc bricked their setup or compromised for the race. They are only 2 to 3 tenths ahead of RBR and in party mode at that. Don't think Ferrari and RBR could have improved that much.
Nice to see Kimi pushing Seb.
Merc cannot rely on their dominance any more if they get their set up wrong as they did on the past few years.
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pokerman wrote:
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Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.

Yeah he destroyed Kimi by 0.089s :lol:


Well you don't need to be 1 second clear for it to be a monster lap, he was behind in S1 and 2 and found something in S3.

I don't think you know the definition of a monster lap particularly when it relates to beating an identical car.


I'm in good company as most commentators and journalists think it was a monster lap as well.
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Rockie wrote:
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Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.

Yeah he destroyed Kimi by 0.089s :lol:


Well you don't need to be 1 second clear for it to be a monster lap, he was behind in S1 and 2 and found something in S3.

I don't think you know the definition of a monster lap particularly when it relates to beating an identical car.


I'm in good company as most commentators and journalists think it was a monster lap as well.


It wasn't Hamilton so can't be considered a 'Monster Lap'. ;)

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Lotus49 wrote:
This season is so weird so far. Lots of huge swings in performance track to track and between team mates and Kimi looks like 2005 Kimi and Ferrari look like 2007/8 Ferrari.

Got to be the new tyre compounds right?

I reckon that plays a big part, certainly in Kimi's case. I've always said the tyres are his biggest limiting factor.

Gotta feel for Kimi today. Dominated first two sectors and to get pipped at the post like that must hurt!
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pokerman wrote:
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Am I right in that in qualifying, Bottas generally seems as good or better than Hamilton when Ferrari are better? Ferrari looked better last year in Russia. Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Monaco, Hamilton broke down under pressure, Bottas 3rd. Hungary, Bottas 3rd, Hamilton 4th. Then even Mexico when Ferrari were better, Bottas was very close behind Hamilton. Then Ferrari looked better last qualifying in Bahrain, 3rd and 4th in the same order again. And yet again, Ferrari are better here, and same for Hamilton and Bottas.. I honestly think Bottas possibly has better 1 lap pace than Hamilton when Ferrari is a better car, but what sense does this make? Does Hamilton just sometimes struggle when he's not far better than everyone else?

Yeah that seems to be the case, some times last year that was put down to Hamilton over driving trying to make up the difference.

Might be something in that. When the car isn't the outright best there is more scope for the drivers to make errors trying to compensate
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Rockie wrote:
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Monster lap by Seb there, welldone Ferrari. Bring on Sunday.

Yeah he destroyed Kimi by 0.089s :lol:


Well you don't need to be 1 second clear for it to be a monster lap, he was behind in S1 and 2 and found something in S3.

I don't think you know the definition of a monster lap particularly when it relates to beating an identical car.


I'm in good company as most commentators and journalists think it was a monster lap as well.

You know I heard one commentator saying how perfect Vettel's lap was through the first 2 sectors and then sort of contradicted himself by mentioning that Kimi had gone even quicker, so Kimi must have been on a Godzilla lap at that point?

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