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Driver(s) of the day was / were:-
1. Lewis Hamilton 7%  7%  [ 15 ]
2. Valtteri Bottas 3%  3%  [ 7 ]
3. Sebastian Vettel 26%  26%  [ 58 ]
4. Kimi Raikkonen 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
5. Daniel Ricciardo 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
6. Max Verstappen 1%  1%  [ 3 ]
7. Sergio Perez 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
8. Esteban Ocon 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
9. Sergey Sirotkin 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
10. Lance Stroll 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
11. Fernando Alonso 5%  5%  [ 11 ]
12. Stoffel Vandoorne 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
13. Pierre Gasly 36%  36%  [ 82 ]
14. Brandon Hartley 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
15. Romain Grosjean 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
16. Kevin Magnussen 3%  3%  [ 6 ]
17. Nico Hulkenberg 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
18. Carlos Sainz 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
19. Marcus Ericsson 16%  16%  [ 35 ]
20. Charles Leclerc 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 225
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:35 am 
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Marcus Ericsson was probably the best for me today. Massively outperformed his teammate and fought viciously. My other two votes went to Vettel and Gasly.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:31 am 
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mpls2 wrote:
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Hamilton, Vettel and Gasly.

Bottas should have won this, dropped right back when he should have been closing.
Ferrari look like they have a real monster of an engine



Hamilton, in a car that outclasses by far 3/4 of the field, overtaking 3 slow cars in one go and in a superior car does not make him driver of the day.. getting up to 3rd was the minimum expected of him.. now if he had gone on to overtake both his teammate Bottas and Vettel to win, that would be the driver of the day and I would definitely vote him as driver of the day...


At one point Hamilton was over 25 seconds behind Seb. He finished 6 behind.
I thought that was a very impressive performance.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:58 am 
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Laz_T800 wrote:
mpls2 wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
Hamilton, Vettel and Gasly.

Bottas should have won this, dropped right back when he should have been closing.
Ferrari look like they have a real monster of an engine



Hamilton, in a car that outclasses by far 3/4 of the field, overtaking 3 slow cars in one go and in a superior car does not make him driver of the day.. getting up to 3rd was the minimum expected of him.. now if he had gone on to overtake both his teammate Bottas and Vettel to win, that would be the driver of the day and I would definitely vote him as driver of the day...


At one point Hamilton was over 25 seconds behind Seb. He finished 6 behind.
I thought that was a very impressive performance.


You can say the same for everybody behind Vettel as he was nursing his tyres.

So nothing impressive about it.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:11 am 
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Rockie wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
mpls2 wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
Hamilton, Vettel and Gasly.

Bottas should have won this, dropped right back when he should have been closing.
Ferrari look like they have a real monster of an engine



Hamilton, in a car that outclasses by far 3/4 of the field, overtaking 3 slow cars in one go and in a superior car does not make him driver of the day.. getting up to 3rd was the minimum expected of him.. now if he had gone on to overtake both his teammate Bottas and Vettel to win, that would be the driver of the day and I would definitely vote him as driver of the day...


At one point Hamilton was over 25 seconds behind Seb. He finished 6 behind.
I thought that was a very impressive performance.


You can say the same for everybody behind Vettel as he was nursing his tyres.

So nothing impressive about it.


Vettel lapped the field up to 5th so not really.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:09 pm 
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Ericsson, Gasly and Vettel.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:16 pm 
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Reasonably straight forward this time around, went with Vettel and Gasly.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:22 pm 
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Daniel and Max votes? People should stop voting just to throw the results off... Max ruined his own race and could have very well ended Lewis's in the process. How on earth can he get two votes?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:28 pm 
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Daniel and Max votes? People should stop voting just to throw the results off... Max ruined his own race and could have very well ended Lewis's in the process. How on earth can he get two votes?


Yeah, I don't understand that. Danny was the only person at RBR who did not cover himself in shame yesterday, and he had no real chance to show any merit. :-P


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:52 pm 
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It’s hilarious to me if Vettel doesn’t win this. Managing the tyres the way he did, soaking up the pressure of a faster car hunting him down..
Gasly didn’t make any mistakes but who is to say that the car wasn’t intrinsically capable of getting him to 4th? Disregarding the retirements of those ahead of him.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:33 pm 
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ohwell wrote:
It’s hilarious to me if Vettel doesn’t win this. Managing the tyres the way he did, soaking up the pressure of a faster car hunting him down..
Gasly didn’t make any mistakes but who is to say that the car wasn’t intrinsically capable of getting him to 4th? Disregarding the retirements of those ahead of him.


Vettel finished really where he should have done (I voted for him anyway because he put in a great drive). Ericsson finished way above where he should have. For me he is clearly the stand out driver of the day.


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mikeyg123 wrote:
Rockie wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
mpls2 wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
Hamilton, Vettel and Gasly.

Bottas should have won this, dropped right back when he should have been closing.
Ferrari look like they have a real monster of an engine



Hamilton, in a car that outclasses by far 3/4 of the field, overtaking 3 slow cars in one go and in a superior car does not make him driver of the day.. getting up to 3rd was the minimum expected of him.. now if he had gone on to overtake both his teammate Bottas and Vettel to win, that would be the driver of the day and I would definitely vote him as driver of the day...


At one point Hamilton was over 25 seconds behind Seb. He finished 6 behind.
I thought that was a very impressive performance.


You can say the same for everybody behind Vettel as he was nursing his tyres.

So nothing impressive about it.


Vettel lapped the field up to 5th so not really.


It's about the objectives. Gasly ended P4, he was almost 1 min behind Hamilton. But he had no reason to push since the 4th was his objective. In the hindsight, Hamilton better did the same and have his engine preserved. But he did push since his objective was to finish higher than P3. He was fighting Vettel. Firstly, he needed the gap to Vettel to be as smallest as possible in the case Vettel was to pit 2nd time and come out on the fresh rubber behind him, so to defend the P2. And when Vettel stayed out, he was pushing to close the gap to Vettel as much as possible in the case Vettel's tires start falling off. Well, on the end Vettel managed his tires, and Hamilton's 6 seconds to Vettel turned out to be a completely useless achievement, a waste of machinery. But it was a try. The top 3 pushed as hard as possible till the checkered flag.


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ohwell wrote:
It’s hilarious to me if Vettel doesn’t win this. Managing the tyres the way he did, soaking up the pressure of a faster car hunting him down..
Gasly didn’t make any mistakes but who is to say that the car wasn’t intrinsically capable of getting him to 4th? Disregarding the retirements of those ahead of him.


Who is to say that the yellow tyres weren't intrinsically capable of lasting that long on the Ferrari?

(Vettel was one of my dofd - I just don't see the logic here.)


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Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
ohwell wrote:
It’s hilarious to me if Vettel doesn’t win this. Managing the tyres the way he did, soaking up the pressure of a faster car hunting him down..
Gasly didn’t make any mistakes but who is to say that the car wasn’t intrinsically capable of getting him to 4th? Disregarding the retirements of those ahead of him.


Who is to say that the yellow tyres weren't intrinsically capable of lasting that long on the Ferrari?

(Vettel was one of my dofd - I just don't see the logic here.)


About the tyres - Pretty much all the simulations.

The Honda engine is quick we all saw that from testing.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:54 pm 
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ohwell wrote:
Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
ohwell wrote:
It’s hilarious to me if Vettel doesn’t win this. Managing the tyres the way he did, soaking up the pressure of a faster car hunting him down..
Gasly didn’t make any mistakes but who is to say that the car wasn’t intrinsically capable of getting him to 4th? Disregarding the retirements of those ahead of him.


Who is to say that the yellow tyres weren't intrinsically capable of lasting that long on the Ferrari?

(Vettel was one of my dofd - I just don't see the logic here.)


About the tyres - Pretty much all the simulations.

The Honda engine is quick we all saw that from testing.


Well, we often saw Pirelli tyres lasting much longer than Pirelli announces.
We all saw that last season.


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Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
ohwell wrote:
Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
ohwell wrote:
It’s hilarious to me if Vettel doesn’t win this. Managing the tyres the way he did, soaking up the pressure of a faster car hunting him down..
Gasly didn’t make any mistakes but who is to say that the car wasn’t intrinsically capable of getting him to 4th? Disregarding the retirements of those ahead of him.


Who is to say that the yellow tyres weren't intrinsically capable of lasting that long on the Ferrari?

(Vettel was one of my dofd - I just don't see the logic here.)


About the tyres - Pretty much all the simulations.

The Honda engine is quick we all saw that from testing.


Well, we often saw Pirelli tyres lasting much longer than Pirelli announces.
We all saw that last season.


The days where Pirelli's tyres hit the cliff have gone.
Vettel's times really didn't drop off to any large extent at all.
He was in the 1m35's on lap 24. Still in the 1m35's on lap 55.
More gradual degradation than any kind of cliff these days.
Still, an excellent drive from Vettel to avoid the 2nd stop which undoubtedly would have cost him 1 or 2 places.


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Laz_T800 wrote:
Vettel's times really didn't drop off to any large extent at all.
He was in the 1m35's on lap 24. Still in the 1m35's on lap 55.
More gradual degradation than any kind of cliff these days.


The amount of fuel burnt off in all those laps should make for a decent gain in times. Instead, he went from a 1:24.6 on lap 20 to finally a 1:27 at the end. It was indeed gradual, there is no real cliff. But Hamilton did a low 1:24 after he came out and he still was able to do a low 1:24 at the second to last lap.

Basically the Mercedes at the end was capable to go 1.5-2s faster than the Ferrari and that was all because of worn tyres.

So the tyres "lasted" in a way, but not in a way that they were still actually good for racing, just for hanging on for dear life.

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mds wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
Vettel's times really didn't drop off to any large extent at all.
He was in the 1m35's on lap 24. Still in the 1m35's on lap 55.
More gradual degradation than any kind of cliff these days.


The amount of fuel burnt off in all those laps should make for a decent gain in times. Instead, he went from a 1:24.6 on lap 20 to finally a 1:27 at the end. It was indeed gradual, there is no real cliff. But Hamilton did a low 1:24 after he came out and he still was able to do a low 1:24 at the second to last lap.

Basically the Mercedes at the end was capable to go 1.5-2s faster than the Ferrari and that was all because of worn tyres.

So the tyres "lasted" in a way, but not in a way that they were still actually good for racing, just for hanging on for dear life.


The last few laps that Seb did whilst under attack from Bottas were slower because of the way he was defending, using his battery power etc to help against DRS rather than achieve the best lap time he could.
I'd be surprised if he couldn't have still been doing the 1m35's without the Bottas pressure.
The point being that the cheese tyres we've had previously look to be in the past.


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Laz_T800 wrote:
mds wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
Vettel's times really didn't drop off to any large extent at all.
He was in the 1m35's on lap 24. Still in the 1m35's on lap 55.
More gradual degradation than any kind of cliff these days.


The amount of fuel burnt off in all those laps should make for a decent gain in times. Instead, he went from a 1:24.6 on lap 20 to finally a 1:27 at the end. It was indeed gradual, there is no real cliff. But Hamilton did a low 1:24 after he came out and he still was able to do a low 1:24 at the second to last lap.

Basically the Mercedes at the end was capable to go 1.5-2s faster than the Ferrari and that was all because of worn tyres.

So the tyres "lasted" in a way, but not in a way that they were still actually good for racing, just for hanging on for dear life.


The last few laps that Seb did whilst under attack from Bottas were slower because of the way he was defending, using his battery power etc to help against DRS rather than achieve the best lap time he could.
I'd be surprised if he couldn't have still been doing the 1m35's without the Bottas pressure.
The point being that the cheese tyres we've had previously look to be in the past.


Yeah but he only had to defend against DRS in the second-to-last and last laps. He was doing high 1:25's well before that so that's still more than 1.5s faster than the Mercedes could go at that point.

But I agree, there is no real cliff anymore. I guess it makes for harder decision making about strategy. But I vastly prefer it.

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I normally only pick 1 driver but this time I couldn't decide between Vettel and Gasly so picked both.

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