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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:38 pm 
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The prospect of McLaren running a full-on orange livery for 2018 got me thinking about how certain F1 teams are associated with a specific colour, i.e. for most people, if you think of a red F1 car, you'll immediately think of one team. That made me curious as to the following: what one team first comes to mind when you think of the following colours?

Red:
Orange:
Yellow:
Green:
Blue:
Purple:
Pink:
Black:
White:
Silver:
Brown:

I've tried to keep these quite broad as if we start going into different types of blue, for example, we could end up with dozens of different colours!

Incidentally, as I'm sure there must be some people on here who are colourblind and might not really be able to answer all of the above (I've genuinely no idea if that is the case or not, so please pardon my ignorance) I was wondering how does that actually impact the way you watch F1? Do you find some liveries end up looking really similar?

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Red: Ferrari, Mclaren, Alfa Romeo
Orange: Surtees/March
Yellow: Renault, Fittipaldi, ATS
Green: Jaguar/Lotus
Blue: Ligier, Tyrrell, Osella, Lotus
Purple: X
Pink: X
Black: Shadows
White: Williams
Silver: Mercedes
Brown: Arrows

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Mine are as follows:

Red: Ferrari
Orange: McLaren
Yellow: Jordan (also thought of Forti)
Green: Lotus
Blue: Prost
Purple: Simtek
Pink: Force India
Black: Sauber
White: Williams
Silver: Mercedes
Brown: Erm...

Actually doing this made me realise I've got some strong associations with teams who only ran a certain colour for a short period (i.e. Sauber and black), that I think of Simtek rather than Red Bull when it comes to purple, and that Williams' recent Martini livery means I think of their car as being white rather than blue. Oh and that F1 needs more chocolate-based sponsors or something :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Red: Ferrari
Orange: McLaren
Yellow: Renault
Green: Lotus
Blue: Williams
Purple: Red Bull
Pink: Force India
Black: Red Bull test car livery lol
White: Williams
Silver: Mercedes
Brown: -

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Red: Ferrari
Orange: Arrows
Yellow: Jordan
Green: Jaguar
Blue: Williams
Purple: Red Bull
Pink: Brabham
Black: Minardi/Arrows
White: Tyrrell/Stewart
Silver: Mercedes/McLaren

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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So no thought, just first team that comes to me,

Red: Ferrari
Orange: Arrows
Yellow: Jordan
Green: Jaguar
Blue: Bennetton
Purple: Prost
Pink: Force India
Black: Arrows
White: Tyrrell
Silver: Mclaren
Brown: I got nothing.

I think I got stuck on a 90s theme.


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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Red: Ferrari
Orange: McLaren
Yellow: Jordan
Green: Lotus
Blue: Williams
Purple: Red Bull
Pink: Force India
Black: Arrows
White: Stewart
Silver: Mercedes
Brown: Rebaque


I remembered seeing a God awful brown Lotus when looking for Lotus 49 pics once but couldn't remember who ran it but after some quick Googling it was Team Rebaque apparently in 1978 with a Lotus 79 but it didn't exactly spring to mind without some searching so might not count as well as the others. The 1979 brown one with a bit more sponsors looked ok though to be fair.

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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I can't believe Jordan popped into my head before Renault...

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Lotus49 wrote:
I can't believe Jordan popped into my head before Renault...


I thought of Jordan *and* Forti before Renault :lol: which is all the more hilarious because I love the Renault livery. Funny thing is, I didn't even think of their black livery first, although I attribute that more to the fact that when I was young, I had a little toy version of the Sauber C13, so in my head that's my go-to black F1 car.

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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0 thought, just a first that springs to mind. Bear in mind, I was an Indycar fan first, and only got into F1 in the late 90s

Red: Ferrari/Target Chip Ganassi
Orange: Arrows
Yellow: Jordan
Green: Team Kool Green/Jaguar
Blue: Players Forsythe/Renault
Purple: Red Bull
Pink: Force India
Black: Newman Haas
White: Williams
Silver: Mclaren
Brown: First thought Brawn, but that’s because it sounds like Brown

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I can't believe Jordan popped into my head before Renault...


I think Blue when I think Renault. Mainly because of Alonso’s championship run


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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Jenson's Understeer wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
I can't believe Jordan popped into my head before Renault...


I thought of Jordan *and* Forti before Renault :lol: which is all the more hilarious because I love the Renault livery. Funny thing is, I didn't even think of their black livery first, although I attribute that more to the fact that when I was young, I had a little toy version of the Sauber C13, so in my head that's my go-to black F1 car.


I'm putting it down to a mixture of the Buzzin' and Hornets which I loved and maybe a bit of what bradtheboywonder says about Blue and Alonso's cars kind of blocking the Renault=Yellow thinking part of my brain,lol.

That Sauber was nice yeah. I thought of Arrows because their all black 'Danka' car from the late 90's was a big favourite as are just about all of Arrows liveries from that period.

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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I like this thread!

Red: Ferrari
Orange: McLaren
Yellow: Renault
Green: Brabham (Jaguar comes to mind too)
Blue: Sauber
Purple: Red Bull
Pink: Force India
Black: Minardi
White: Williams
Silver: McLaren
Brown: None


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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Confining my responses to 1950-1990...

Red: Ferrari, Maserati
Orange: McLaren M14, March
Yellow: Bumble Bee Renault (Turbo)
Green: Lotus (pre 72), Early Brabhams
Blue: V12 Matras, Tyrell, Gurney Westlake Eagle, Ligier
Purple: Silk Cut Jaguar (circa 1988)
Pink: no, just no
Black: Lotus 72-79, etc., 1960s BRMs
White: V12 Honda, Saudia Williams
Silver: 1950s Mercedes
Brown: None

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Taking it in the spirit it was meant, and just as the first association I get...

Red: Ferrari
Orange: McLaren
Yellow: Renault
Green: Lotus
Blue: Tyrell
Purple: Red Bull?
Pink: Force India
Black: Shadow
White: Honda
Silver: Mercedes
Brown: I've got nothing on this one.

Are you going to compile any data so we can see how wide or tight the spread were on these?

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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You'll see how new I am to this:


Red: Ferrari
Orange: Nobody
Yellow: Jordan
Green: Caterham
Blue: Williams
Purple: None
Pink: Force India
Black: Lotus
White: Williams (again)
Silver: McLaren
Brown: ---

Jordan popped in to my head for both yellow and orange, but I don't think they've ever even ran orange (I probably had a sh*t TV), so I've left orange blank.

I still think Silver when I think McLaren, although I mostly think of those big 'West' sidepods which was the white & black livery, so I'm learning my brain is a weird thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Red: Ferrari
Orange: McLaren
Yellow: Williams
Green: Jaguar
Blue: Ligier
Purple: Red Bull
Pink: Force India
Black: Minardi
White: Williams
Silver: McLaren
Brown: /

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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I agree with most, only putting Arrows for Orange, as McLaren hasn't used that livery in decades


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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Red: Ferrari
Orange: Arrows
Yellow: Jordan
Green: Jaguar
Blue: Benetton
Purple: nope
Pink: nope
Black: Lotus
White: Williams
Silver: McLaren
Brown: nope


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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Siao7 wrote:
I agree with most, only putting Arrows for Orange, as McLaren hasn't used that livery in decades


Yeah it's strange, but that's the first thing that comes up. Maybe because everybody is always talking about McLaren adopting an orange livery during each and every winter season :)

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Just at first glance...

Red: Ferrari
Green: Jaguar
Orange: McLaren
Blue: Tyrrell
Yellow: Jordan
Pink: Force India
White: Williams
Silver: Mercedes
Black: Haas

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(Limiting myself to one for each)

Red: Ferrari
Orange: Arrows
Yellow: Jordan
Green: Lotus
Blue: Williams
Purple: Red Bull
Pink: Force India
Black: Arrows (again)
White: Stewart
Silver: McLaren
Brown: JPS Lotus

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Red: Ferrari
Orange: Arrows
Yellow: Jordan
Green: Jaguar
Blue: Prost
Purple: Red Bull
Pink: Force India
Black: Minardi
White: Williams
Silver: Mercedes
Brown: ?

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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mds wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
I agree with most, only putting Arrows for Orange, as McLaren hasn't used that livery in decades


Yeah it's strange, but that's the first thing that comes up. Maybe because everybody is always talking about McLaren adopting an orange livery during each and every winter season :)


True. I realised, however, a lot of people mentioned Arrows before me, serves me right for not reading properly!


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Red: Ferrari/Alfa/Maserati/Toyota
Orange: McLaren/Arrows
Yellow: Renault
Green: Jaguar
Blue: Williams/Tyrrell/Ligier
Purple: ??
Pink: Force India
Black: Lotus/Minardi
White: BMW/Brawn
Silver: Mercedes/Audi
Brown: ??


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edit: I read this thread completely wrong

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mcdo wrote:
Depends on when you start watching

Not for me it doesn't - I never saw a blue Tyrell or a green Lotus on TV, and they're still the associations I have for those colors.

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Red: Ferrari
Orange: Arrows
Yellow: Jordan
Green: Jaguar
Blue: Benneton/Prost
Purple: Simtek
Pink: Footwork Hart (Im sure the nose was pink?)
Black: Arrows too
White: Stewart/Tyrell
Silver: McLaren/Mercedes
Brown: Jordan (one of the mid 90s ones deffo looked like brown on TV, it wasn't brown in the flesh though)

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Arrows must have the most varied colour associations of any team?
Was thinking the gold Arrows A2 looked kinda brown for the same reason as the gold Jordan mentioned above and stumbled across the A8 which actually (and rarely) incorporated brown in it's livery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrows_A8

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Arrows must have the most varied colour associations of any team?
Was thinking the gold Arrows A2 looked kinda brown for the same reason as the gold Jordan mentioned above and stumbled across the A8 which actually (and rarely) incorporated brown in it's livery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrows_A8


I was thinking that myself yeah, and Arrows must have a good shout of being the pound for pound best team ever livery-wise. I like the...

A1
A4
A5
A6
A8
A11
FA12-2
FA14
FA16
FA17
A18
A19
A20
A21
A22
A23


All but 7 I think which is pretty good going. And we've got gold+black,black,red+white,blue+red,blue+white and black and orange amongst others.

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Just the very first one that came to mind here.

Red: Ferrari
Orange: McLaren
Yellow: Renault
Green: Jaguar
Blue: Tyrrell
Purple: Red Bull
Pink: Force India
Black: Lotus
White: Williams
Silver: Mercedes
Brown: ... can't bring to mind one I would consider actually brown as opposed to off-white or gold or basically black.

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 Post subject: Re: Colour Association
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Exediron wrote:
mcdo wrote:
Depends on when you start watching

Not for me it doesn't - I never saw a blue Tyrell or a green Lotus on TV, and they're still the associations I have for those colors.

Yea it's funny because when I first became aware of F1 Lotus was using the JPS livery but I associate green with them instead of Jaguar despite being a Jaguar fan(in general, not necessarily F1) and drew a blank wit associating black with any one team.

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RaggedMan wrote:
Exediron wrote:
mcdo wrote:
Depends on when you start watching

Not for me it doesn't - I never saw a blue Tyrell or a green Lotus on TV, and they're still the associations I have for those colors.

Yea it's funny because when I first became aware of F1 Lotus was using the JPS livery but I associate green with them instead of Jaguar despite being a Jaguar fan(in general, not necessarily F1) and drew a blank wit associating black with any one team.


Yeah, the green Lotus livery was before my time, and in the time I have been watching F1 (1990 onwards) the green liveries that really stand out are Jaguar and Caterham (who of course used the Lotus name). Yet due to watching old F1 races, seeing classic F1 cars at events etc., that's what team I associate it most strongly with.

I also wonder how many of my own answers would be changed at the end of 2018 if one team adopted a new colour scheme for this season. For example, if Red Bull's launch livery was actually kept on, would I finish 2018 associating blue with Red Bull simply because it was at the very forefront of my mind.

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I started watching somewhere in 2002 so here we go

Red: Ferrari
Orange: Arrows 2002
Yellow: Jordan
Green: Jaguar
Blue: Sauber
Purple: Red Bull
Pink: Force India
Black: McLaren (Upto 2005)/Minardi
White: Brawn GP/Toyota/Williams
Silver: Mercedes
Brown: [removed by mod]

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Red: Ferrari
Orange: Mclaren
Yellow: Jordan
Green: BRM
Blue: Matra
Purple: Simtek
Pink: Brabham
Black: Lotus
White: Footwork
Silver: Mercedes
Brown:


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It's good so see that some of you remember Matra. Their blue cars were stunning, if not always fast.

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Can't believe nobody has mentioned Spyker yet for Orange..


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Can't believe nobody has mentioned Spyker yet for Orange..


Probably because Spyker (and Midland) were utterly, utterly forgettable incarnations of the team while it transformed from Jordan into what is (the team formally known as? haha) Force India.

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Lola F1 takes all the colours from everyone else I think you'll find!

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