Exediron wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:
Oh no. I just worked it out. We've never had a Chinese driver race in F1. I can't believe it Brad. The most populous nation on earth and no driver? F1 has had more female drivers race than Chinese drivers. Or Indian drivers. Or Moroccan drivers. Or Peruvian drivers. Or Mongolian drivers or Tanzanian drivers.
It actually turns out that there's been more female racing drivers than there has been from a whole host of other cultures.
Why do you think we haven't? If your opinion is that we don't have female drivers because they're inherently not good enough, presumably you think the same about Chinese drivers?
I don't know and to be honest I don't really care. As long as they have the opportunity to have a go if they have the desire, ability and resources available then the rest should be up to them.
bradtheboywonder wrote:
Apologies for skipping over the Pippa Mann article, but I read that and funny enough, she’s of the same opinion as me, and this all women’s series is a joke. That it’s harder for women to get into Motorsport than men. That she wears a pink helmet so young female supporters can spot her and cheer for her, because funny enough, there’s not enough women in sport.
And I applaud here for wanting to get to the top using her skill and not her DNA.
bradtheboywonder wrote:
I posted a piece from Simona De Silvestro a while back where she says that there’s not enough female role models in the sport.
And there's not enough male role models in world netball. So what?
bradtheboywonder wrote:
It’s no surprise to see quotas happen in F1. Tell me a time Honda have pushed for a Japanese driver in their car, or when the F1 higher ups insisted there needed to be a Russian driver on the grid for the Russian GP..
There's never been a quota in F1 that I know of. Yes of course deals have been done by individual teams (Lotus > Honda > Sotoru Nakajima) and if you're referring to Vitaly Petrov with your Russian comment then I have no idea what you're on about.
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bradtheboywonder wrote:
I think the teams should field a third car, open for women drivers. It would boost the numbers up for the field. Sure it would be of lower quality for the first season or 10, but eventually it would become the norm and the need for a quota wouldn’t be required.
Who's going to foot the bill for this extra car? The teams? The sport's trying to cut costs, not increase them. And I can see how great it'd be fitting 30 cars in and around Monaco, Baku and Singapore.
bradtheboywonder wrote:
For religious groups, they already have a travelling Priest that goes with the F1 circus. You’re right, they should either include other religious leaders, or maybe offer some incentives to local religious organisations to look after their drivers
No i'm talking about drivers. If diversity is so important then surely we need to ensure we have drivers from different religious backgrounds. Speaking of diversity, what are you going to do to promote motor racing within the transgender and gender fluid community or the other minorities I mentioned, and I'm being serious here. You go into bat for 1 minority group you should go into bat for all of them.
bradtheboywonder wrote:
I don’t need to worry about quitting my job. We already have a plan in place to fill 50% of Senior leadership roles with women, and have plans in place to promote and develop 10% of leadership roles for refugees and indigenous employees. It’s good to work for a place clearly trying to overcome diversity and right the wrongs of a bunch of old ignorant white guys
I also enjoy working for my employer. The difference is though is that my employer doesn't give a frogs fat one about a persons gender, race, religion, sexual orientation or if they're a dog or cat person. The business I work for only cares that you're the best candidate for the job. Probably why it's one of the top 5 fastest growing and most profitable businesses in Australia and yes, we do have a female director and female managers.
I notice you didn't answer my question regarding where your quest for equality will end. At what point will you be happy and i'd really like an answer to that question?
I also notice that for a person who's touting equality, tolerance and inclusiveness, it's the second time you've had a go at "Old,white men". I'd think one of the forum's policy's would address discriminatory and derogatory comments regarding gender, race or age.
Personally I don't care because I enjoy these debates and I don't trigger easily. I do try to look at these exchanges as hearty debates and as such I try avoid comments that belittle anything other than ideas, ideals, concepts or opinions but I don't want moderator intervention so maybe try to practice the tolerance you preach so passionately huh?
I may disagree with practically everything you say on this subject but I do commend you on your passion for your cause and as a result I do my best to avoid personal attacks.
Your cause is just wrong that's all.