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Driver of the weekend: Brazilian GP
Poll ended at Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:49 pm
Hamilton 14%  14%  [ 8 ]
Bottas 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Vettel 27%  27%  [ 15 ]
Raikkonen 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Ricciardo 5%  5%  [ 3 ]
Verstappen 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Massa 13%  13%  [ 7 ]
Stroll 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Perez 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Ocon 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Hartley 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Gasly 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Hulkenberg 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Sainz 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Alonso 36%  36%  [ 20 ]
Vandoorne 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Magnussen 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Grosjean 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Ericsson 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Wehrlein 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 56
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Driver of The Weekend 2017 - Brazil

Cast your vote for the 2017 Brazilian Grand Prix!


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- Voting is based on driver performance (not who has the prettiest girlfriend/best haircut)
- Voting is based on performance of the whole race weekend, so qualifying counts towards your assessment.
- You only get one vote
- The poll will start on either on the day of the GP (or Monday if I am unable to for some reason)
- The poll will run until Friday so that it will always end before the next GP
- The top three voted for drivers will earn points towards a championship table as follows:
- 1st: 5 points
- 2nd: 3 points
- 3rd: 1 point
- Ties will be decided by finishing position



Standings after Mexico
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   |  Driver      | Points |
1  |  Hamilton    |   55   |
2  |  Vettel      |   31   |
3  |  Verstappen  |   15   |
4  |  Ricciardo   |   13   |
5  |  Bottas      |    9   |
6  |  Sainz       |    7   |
7  |  Stroll      |    5   |
8  |  Alonso      |    5   |
9  |  Perez       |    3   |
10 |  Ocon        |    3   |
11 |  Hulkenberg  |    3   |
12 |  Vandoorne   |    3   |
13 |  Wehrlein    |    3   |
14 |  Giovinazzi  |    3   |
15 |  Raikkonen   |    1   |
16 |  Grosjean    |    1   |

Alonso for me, best driver in both qualifying and race.


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Alonso.


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Alonso.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:54 pm 
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Alonso.


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Alonso :thumbup:


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Easily Alonso


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:17 pm 
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So 8 posts saying Alonso but only 6 votes in the poll, that’s a new one :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:40 pm 
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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
So 8 posts saying Alonso but only 6 votes in the poll, that’s a new one :lol:



lol.

I forgot ... there - added.


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How Hamilton has votes is beyond me. This should have been a comfortable race win for him or at least my money would have been on him for the win but instead he ended the weekend P4. Vettel was decent in qualifying and managed the race well and got the job done at the start.


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Invade wrote:
How Hamilton has votes is beyond me. This should have been a comfortable race win for him or at least my money would have been on him for the win but instead he ended the weekend P4. Vettel was decent in qualifying and managed the race well and got the job done at the start.


I agree.
People tend to confuse the DOTD poll with the DOTW I think.

I think Seb had a pole lap in the car but made an error so that put him below Fernando for me.


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Has to be Alonso for me. He only just missed out on 6th on the grid and only the Honda's power deficit on the straight allowed Massa to take him. I thought he had a hugely impressive weekend and the McLaren actually looked competitive!

Honourable mention to Vettel, although he lost points in my mind because he should have had pole.


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Laz_T800 wrote:
Invade wrote:
How Hamilton has votes is beyond me. This should have been a comfortable race win for him or at least my money would have been on him for the win but instead he ended the weekend P4. Vettel was decent in qualifying and managed the race well and got the job done at the start.


I agree.
People tend to confuse the DOTD poll with the DOTW I think.

I think Seb had a pole lap in the car but made an error so that put him below Fernando for me.

yes I'd agree with you there. But I also think some will vote for their favourite no matter what they do


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Voted for Massa. I think he beat Alonso in a slower car (just relied on his straight line speed to keep Fernando behind). McLaren got caught napping here as they should never have allowed Massa to pit before Alonso. I think Fernando could have finished way up the road from Felipe if not for being stuck behind him all race long. None the less, I see a ton of votes for Alonso and none for Felipe. What else is new?


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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Driver of The Weekend 2017 - Brazil

Cast your vote for the 2017 Brazilian Grand Prix!


Rules & Format
Quote:
- Voting is based on driver performance (not who has the prettiest girlfriend/best haircut)
- Voting is based on performance of the whole race weekend, so qualifying counts towards your assessment.
- You only get one vote
- The poll will start on either on the day of the GP (or Monday if I am unable to for some reason)
- The poll will run until Friday so that it will always end before the next GP
- The top three voted for drivers will earn points towards a championship table as follows:
- 1st: 5 points
- 2nd: 3 points
- 3rd: 1 point
- Ties will be decided by finishing position



Standings after Mexico
Code:
   |  Driver      | Points |
1  |  Hamilton    |   55   |
2  |  Vettel      |   31   |
3  |  Verstappen  |   15   |
4  |  Ricciardo   |   13   |
5  |  Bottas      |    9   |
6  |  Sainz       |    7   |
7  |  Stroll      |    5   |
8  |  Alonso      |    5   |
9  |  Perez       |    3   |
10 |  Ocon        |    3   |
11 |  Hulkenberg  |    3   |
12 |  Vandoorne   |    3   |
13 |  Wehrlein    |    3   |
14 |  Giovinazzi  |    3   |
15 |  Raikkonen   |    1   |
16 |  Grosjean    |    1   |

Alonso for me, best driver in both qualifying and race.


Going on that scoring system. Hamilton is already champion here as Well???


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Sebastian for me but Fernando was amazing too.


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wire2004 wrote:
Going on that scoring system. Hamilton is already champion here as Well???

Hamilton won in Mexico, very nearly won in Japan actually.

It almost perfectly mirrored the real championship which seems weird but generally a win in the race equals a win in the DOTW championship even if the winner didn’t really do anything special. So it makes sense that it is more or less in line.

I think the exception was Vettel at Hungary and it looks like this could be another.


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sandman1347 wrote:
Voted for Massa. I think he beat Alonso in a slower car (just relied on his straight line speed to keep Fernando behind). McLaren got caught napping here as they should never have allowed Massa to pit before Alonso. I think Fernando could have finished way up the road from Felipe if not for being stuck behind him all race long. None the less, I see a ton of votes for Alonso and none for Felipe. What else is new?


Massa didn't do anything. He used his Mercedes power to pass Alonso and his Honda on the restart. Nothing impressive about that.


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It might have been Hamilton, if he hadn't crashed in quali - he seemed to have the pace on everyone, and I believe he would have taken pole and dominated.

He didn't, however, and so I'm giving my vote to Alonso. He seemed the only one who really performed above where you'd expect his car to be.

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sandman1347 wrote:
Voted for Massa. I think he beat Alonso in a slower car (just relied on his straight line speed to keep Fernando behind). McLaren got caught napping here as they should never have allowed Massa to pit before Alonso. I think Fernando could have finished way up the road from Felipe if not for being stuck behind him all race long. None the less, I see a ton of votes for Alonso and none for Felipe. What else is new?

It's Driver of the Weekend, not Driver of the Day. It's easy to argue Alonso was more impressive than Massa on Saturday, tipping the voting in his favour

That's how I voted anyway. Because I also think Massa had a better Sunday

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This site has more realistic votes so far for driver of the weekend. On F1 Fanatic, the votes towards Hamilton for driver of the "weekend" have gone crazy. He has 25% and is ties with Massa. Then Vettel 22% and Alonso 16%.

Hamilton finished the race 4th. And he finished 4th with a bit of luck involved. As he got 6 free passes at the start and the safety car was also involved. But Bottas and Kimi who hardly have any votes (none here either) clearly did better on the whole. As they finished ahead due to their qualifying position. Qualifying is done on a Saturday - Saturday is part of the weekend. On this day, Hamilton binned it and required a big rebuild and a new engine which will have likely improves the cars performance a little. So how can he have a single vote for driver of the weekend when there are simply loads of others that did better that still don't deserve driver of the weekend. Sorry to moan here as this site seems to have more fair votes but I still think Hamilton shouldn't have any. Crashing heavily in qualifying when no others did is surely enough to stop you being voted as driver of the weekend. Especially when you don't recover to a position you would have almost certainly been in if you didn't make this mistake. At least there is only 7 so far that have voted for Hamilton. I know many will be fed up of me being against Hamilton, but the fact that so many don't seem to understand the definition of weekend just annoys me.


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Hamilton should have finished P1 or maybe P2 but he finished P4. But look at the overall results for driver of the weekend and driver of the day and you'll see the whole thing is a bit silly anyway.


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Invade wrote:
Hamilton should have finished P1 or maybe P2 but he finished P4. But look at the overall results for driver of the weekend and driver of the day and you'll see the whole thing is a bit silly anyway.

Some people might be voting for him on the basis that he was obviously the quickest over the weekend. I think his driver error in qualifying disqualifies him, but if you think differently I can see giving him a vote. I didn't, mind you.

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Alonso just edges it, then Vettel, then Massa, then... Verstappen?

Hamilton should not have votes, he put it in the effin' wall. Ricciardo got outqualified, so 3 votes for him vs 0 for Verstappen is a bit puzzling too. The Stroll vote is just comical :)

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Ricciardo got outqualified, so 3 votes for him vs 0 for Verstappen is a bit puzzling too.

Qualifying is certainly part of it, but I don't think being outqualified should completely rule you out. He arguably had the better race than Verstappen, who couldn't keep his tyres together for the optimum strategy.

I wouldn't vote for either of them, that said.

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mds wrote:
Alonso just edges it, then Vettel, then Massa, then... Verstappen?

Hamilton should not have votes, he put it in the effin' wall. Ricciardo got outqualified, so 3 votes for him vs 0 for Verstappen is a bit puzzling too. The Stroll vote is just comical :)

nah, now it's Hamilton pipping Massa to 3rd...


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Qualifying is certainly part of it, but I don't think being outqualified should completely rule you out. He arguably had the better race than Verstappen, who couldn't keep his tyres together for the optimum strategy.


I tend to agree, but it seems to be the bar that has been set here over the years: if you don't outqualify your teammate, then you're out basically.

Verstappen probably tried too much in order to catch much faster cars and wrecked his softs while doing so.

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Zoue wrote:
mds wrote:
Alonso just edges it, then Vettel, then Massa, then... Verstappen?

Hamilton should not have votes, he put it in the effin' wall. Ricciardo got outqualified, so 3 votes for him vs 0 for Verstappen is a bit puzzling too. The Stroll vote is just comical :)

nah, now it's Hamilton pipping Massa to 3rd...


Would be nice to have at least one of the Hamilton-voters come out of the woodwork and explain their rationale.

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mds wrote:
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Qualifying is certainly part of it, but I don't think being outqualified should completely rule you out. He arguably had the better race than Verstappen, who couldn't keep his tyres together for the optimum strategy.


I tend to agree, but it seems to be the bar that has been set here over the years: if you don't outqualify your teammate, then you're out basically.

Verstappen probably tried too much in order to catch much faster cars and wrecked his softs while doing so.

tbh, I think the manner of defeat in qualifying is important. If someone just loses out by a tenth or so, I don't see why that should disqualify them from DotW, especially if they had a sterling drive on Sunday to make up for it. But if they were dominated or otherwise didn't take part, I don't think they should be eligible.

Similarly, I don't think just making a mistake on Sunday should automatically disqualify you from getting a vote, as it depends on how the driver performs the rest of the weekend (and how big a mistake it was, too). But I know I'm in the minority there


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Alonso for me. Honourable mention to Massa.

Vettel didn't do enough to really mark it as a dominant weekend. Bottas gave it up at the first corner. Hamilton drove in to a wall. Kimi is Kimi. Neither Red Bull driver had a particularly good weekend.


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mds wrote:
Alonso just edges it, then Vettel, then Massa, then... Verstappen?

Hamilton should not have votes, he put it in the effin' wall. Ricciardo got outqualified, so 3 votes for him vs 0 for Verstappen is a bit puzzling too. The Stroll vote is just comical :)

That might have been for holding up Hamilton? :)

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