Pullrod wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
pokerman wrote:
F1Tyrant wrote:
If this chart is anything to go by:
Source: f1metrics.wordpress.comI fully expect Sainz to have the edge over Hulk. I'd put Hulk a quarter of the way from Sainz to Kvyat so we should see the remaining races be drawn 2-2 or come out in Carlito's favour.
I don't have Verstappen beating Sainz in qualifying, I have it about as equal as you can get it, Verstappen's greater strength seemed to be in the race.
I guess if that is the case, you wound't have Kvyat far off Verstappen in qualifying either? Sainz and Kvyat have been pretty evenly matched in qualifying on the whole this year.
I am still trying to figure out if you genuinely like Kvyat or if you are just a Verstappen fan.
You like to see only Sainz mistakes and overrate the prowesses of Kvyat and Verstappen.
I am sorry but Sainz will deliver despite what most of the guys here think.
Just give him Ricciardo's car and Verstappen will have his hands full in qualifying.
I think either Kvyat has to be decent in qualifying or it most certainly is not Sainz's strong point. Kvyat was much worse than Ricciardo in qualifying and mid way through this season, with all their qualifying times averaged out, Kvyat was marginally ahead of Sainz. And there have been one or 2 qualifying sessions since where Kvyat has beaten Sainz again. They have been very close in this area when averaged out. And Ricciardo who dominated Kvyat in qualifying is now not looking as good as Verstappen on the whole in qualifying.
I think Verstappen is the best out of these 4 drivers in qualifying, then Ricciardo. Then a fair way behind in my view, Sainz and Kvyat and they to me are on a similar level, just not on race pace. But I'll be honest, both Sainz and Kvyat have had lots of crashes this year and this is one of the reasons why I think Sainz isn't as good as many suggest. He's caused more retirements than any other driver this year and some of his incidents have looked very stupid indeed. His pace when he's good is indeed great, but I haven't see that significantly more this year than him make big mistakes if I'm honest.
I have paid attention and Kvyat has made a lot of mistakes, but he's only been responsible for his own retirement once. Sainz has cost himself his own race 3 times.
I rate Kvyat a bit higher than many because I believe his pace is decent, he just makes a lot of mistakes. I'm no far of Verstappen at all and I thought I had actually pointed out more negatives about hive that trying to point out the prowesses about him. I just think he has improved a lot this year as he is often looking better than Ricciardo where as I don't think Sainz has improved much since last year as he's made a lot more mistakes than his previous 2 seasons too.