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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:23 am 
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Not a great race, but certainly an interesting one for the championship. Marquez flawless, Rossi probably quickly realizing he couldn't touch Marquez so riding a calculated race and claw back second place at the end.

Best racing of the weekend, for me, was Fenati vs Canet in Moto3. Fenati capitalizing on his strong points on the track to get back ahead or at least stay in touch with a faster Canet, and forcing the latter into error when he wanted to break away from Fenati. Just a shame Canet had such an ugly highsider.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:58 am 
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The Canet vs Fenati battle only lasted a few laps. Canet showed his inexperience. Was in a league of his own and I'm sure if he had a few moto3 wins already under his belt he'd have had no problems coming out on top.

Amazed at Vinales. I hate it when riders don't push for a win but it's the main track of the year when a simple podium is a good result.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:36 am 
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Zazu wrote:
The Canet vs Fenati battle only lasted a few laps. Canet showed his inexperience. Was in a league of his own and I'm sure if he had a few moto3 wins already under his belt he'd have had no problems coming out on top.


True, but it was great as long as it lasted. Beats pretty much everything else I saw through Moto3/Moto2/MotoGP - I have yet to watch half of the Moto2 race though.

But yeah Canet got worked up by Fenati who used all of his experience :)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:40 am 
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I thought all the races were watchable without being edge of seat stuff. I like COTA on the calendar but the hairpin leading onto the main straight kills good racing.

Im not a Rossi fanboy but the best thing from the weekend is him leading the championship going into Europe.

In Moto2 amazed no one seemed to pick up on and/or mention Morbidelli was dominant this year because the people who he was racing against last year are in MotoGP now. I love what BT Sport have done for MotoGP but other than not being a man Suzi Perry brings nothing to the coverage.


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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 11:00 am 
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It's the spanish GP at Jerez this weekend. I bet for the Yamahas, this track has usually been more suited to them rather than the Hondas. Viñales for the win here, but Rossi will do well too I think, he won it last year.


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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:10 pm 
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Lol I was completely wrong, Hondas have been the best bike and the official yamaha team have been horribly bad


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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 2:39 pm 
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I had a bet on Pedrosa at 16/1 :)

He is immense at Jerez and Repsol Honda had a big advantage by using 1 of their private test days here recently.

I dont understand where the Yamaha track myth has come from. Last year they had rock hard tyres apart from that Hondas record is just as good if not better over the last 10 years.

I cant think of any other top tier racing series where circuit characteristics effect the race results so dramatically. Honda were written off a month ago because they dont blast out of corners today the factory Yamahas were 25 and 38 seconds from victory


Moto3 championship looks incredible


Thought the race commentary on BTSport was dreadful. I love their rambling in free practice and qualifying but they don't pick up on stuff fast enough in the races. Will be watching on the official MotoGP.com feed in future.


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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 7:55 pm 
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Very impressive Moto 2 performance by Alex Marquez. His win combined with Morbidelli's crash has opened the championship right up again.

In the premiere class it looks like we're in for another year like the last 2; where multiple riders will win and the championship will be wide open. I was impressed by Dani today but I think Marc has to be feeling great overall. That Honda has certainly come good and he has the bike to compete against anyone. Yamaha looked terrible today. I was shocked by their performance but it seemed like they were just completely lost. Must have been a setup issue as Zarco went well on last year's bike.

It was nice to see Jorge finally look like himself while riding the Ducati. This will hopefully be the turning point in his season as he seemed to be able to extract performance from those medium tires while still maintaining plenty of life in them.


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Maverick blames Michelin:

http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/245321/1 ... oblem.html

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Motomatters said lots of riders blamed Michelin but cant do it directly


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Pedrosa showing off that gloriously pure riding style honed on 250cc 2 strokes. I just love how when Dani gets the tyres in the window, he can't be caught. If only he had a bit more bulk to throw around on the bike.

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:31 am 
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Lol I was completely wrong, Hondas have been the best bike and the official yamaha team have been horribly bad

Yeah that was a nightmare for Yamaha. As if the Honda 1-2 wasn't bad enough they were thumped by Ducati too

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Lol I was completely wrong, Hondas have been the best bike and the official yamaha team have been horribly bad

Yeah that was a nightmare for Yamaha. As if the Honda 1-2 wasn't bad enough they were thumped by Ducati too

Not only by the ducatis but also thumped by the satellite Yamaha Tech 3 team, that's just terrible. like Toro Rosso beating the Red Bulls.
Zarco in front of Maverick and Folger in front of Rossi.
Rossi finished 10 without crashing, thats one of his worst results ever by far, I mean, I dont remember any worse race for him (excluding crashes)


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It is very obvious that the Michelins seem to have a very small window in working well from track to track. Rossi's issues were obviously tire-related, late in the race he had not front tire left, and apparently Maverick thought he was going to crash due to spinning on the left handed corners. As much as this make it exciting and unpredictable, I feel bad for the Yamahas, because if they could ride they way they wanted to, they'd be up front. For all we know, next race might have the Honda's going backwards with no way to recover due to tire temp/surface/setup issues. That being said, they are the same for everyone, but it really seems as if they will play a larger than necessary role in deciding the outcome. The bridgestones were far better and predictable.

Zarco is thrilling to watch, what a superstar he is, already. Loved to see Dani competing! As well as JL 99. Glad to see him pushing and competing.

This season is going to be very, very interesting. Race to race, it's hard to predict. I will say that across all temperatures, variables, weather, etc., that Marquez is the best rider, in my eyes.

This season will be one where damage limitation will be the best skill to have. Vinales and Rossi showed this skill--when you can't compete, don't crash, and ride it out to the best points finish possible. Did anyone see the Miller incident? I never got a good look on my broadcast of his incident, and if his anger was warranted.

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Vinales is adamant he had a dodgy tyre yesterday.

Rossi has had major problems with the 2017 bike. There a limit to how many times you can get good results on a Sunday when your off the pace in every other session.

When the track has low grip the Honda will perform miles better than the Yamaha. However, when their is high grip it plays to all of the Yamahas strength whilst Honda suffer. Assuming the weather is OK, with new high grip tarmac and hard accelerations Vinales will waltz to victory next race.

Agree Marquez is the best rider. I think he is so talented the ridings 'easy' even when the bikes not perfect so he can think about plenty of other stuff and adapt mid race.


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Miller wasn't mad at bautista particularly. He had a good race pace and was fuming about the amount of insane overtakes people tried in the opening laps


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Fantastic to see Dani continue his run of at least one win every year of his MotoGP career!


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Zazu wrote:
Motomatters said lots of riders blamed Michelin but cant do it directly

Sounds like they will find a horse's head in their bed if they do so? 8O

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Interesting reading about the tyres, at the time I simply thought it was the choice of front tyre that made the difference in the race with the medium front tyre being better than the hard front tyre.

Pedrosa was on the the medium, Marquez the hard, Lorenzo and Folger on the medium and I thought both Vinales and Rossi were on the hard?

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Zazu wrote:
Miller wasn't mad at bautista particularly. He had a good race pace and was fuming about the amount of insane overtakes people tried in the opening laps

Miller must be growing up then, there was a time not too far back when he was the one making insane overtakes on the opening laps. :)

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Off topic but Nicky Hayden has been in a serious accident

https://www.motorsport.com/wsbk/news/mo ... nt-907085/

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Off topic but Nicky Hayden has been in a serious accident

https://www.motorsport.com/wsbk/news/mo ... nt-907085/


I don't like the use of severe head and chest trauma :-((

Hopefully he makes a full recovery. :thumbup:

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Terrible news. :x

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Very sad indeed. I've watched Nicky since he was a teenager in the AMA series. Hopefully he'll be alright.


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I saw a website that shows the car's window, and it is caved in pretty significantly, indicating a large impact. :-(( :-((

I hope to he was wearing a helmet, and I bet that he was, with all the cycling he does. This couldn't have happened to a nicer guy, just a terrible accident.

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http://www.motofire.com/2017/05/news/br ... -accident/

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Over the years I've heard of quite a few cyclists being killed or badly injured by vehicles, only a couple of years ago my sisters neighbour was struck by a vehicle and killed whilst cycling into work, it's not an activity I would look to partake in.

Very unfortunate for Nicky Hayden, one of the good guys, let's hope he makes a full recovery.

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Anyone watching the Moto3?! Absolute carnage!

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Anyone watching the Moto3?! Absolute carnage!

Yeah, what a chaos. It was due to an oil spill.

Maverick for the win, here in the Le Mans circuit he has always done really well.


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Gutted for the Doctor.
Vinales was only close enough to take advantage due to straight lining a few corners.
Shame Rossi didn't know about that because he may have been given a penalty and there was no need to throw it in the gravel


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Speechless. He had it all in his hands and he threw it away. Maverick is laughing now

Zarco proving that he's cut out for the top yet again

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Gutted for the Doctor.
Vinales was only close enough to take advantage due to straight lining a few corners.
Shame Rossi didn't know about that because he may have been given a penalty and there was no need to throw it in the gravel

Vinales only missed one corner and he made no ground up on Rossi so there was never going to be a penalty against him.

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Speechless. He had it all in his hands and he threw it away. Maverick is laughing now

Zarco proving that he's cut out for the top yet again

I was about half a lap away from writing how this year looks to be another 2015 season for Marquez with him not being able to settle for 4th/5th place points and with Rossi having passed Vinales he was now looking perhaps favourite for the title, but then he makes 2 mistakes, the first cost him the win but more damaging not settling for second place has blown it wide open again.

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pokerman wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
Gutted for the Doctor.
Vinales was only close enough to take advantage due to straight lining a few corners.
Shame Rossi didn't know about that because he may have been given a penalty and there was no need to throw it in the gravel

Vinales only missed one corner and he made no ground up on Rossi so there was never going to be a penalty against him.


Commentary suggested it was his fastest lap of the race and that he could get a penalty?


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What a race! I feel terrible for Valentino after this one. He performed so well just to have it slip away. This season will be very unpredictable. The fact that there are legitimately 5-6 riders in the hunt every race makes it very easy to have crashes as everyone is pushing extremely hard.

Congrats to Zarco as well for another brilliant performance on the satellite bike. He should be first in line should a factory spot open up next year. He is absolutely one of the best in the world at the moment without question.

This was a big day for Maverick though. His lead in the standings is huge now and he will need to remain consistent in order to build on it. This championship will be decided by consistency.


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Moto 3 accident was sort of Benny Hill worthy,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-LYAg_mBNg

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Laz_T800 wrote:
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Laz_T800 wrote:
Gutted for the Doctor.
Vinales was only close enough to take advantage due to straight lining a few corners.
Shame Rossi didn't know about that because he may have been given a penalty and there was no need to throw it in the gravel

Vinales only missed one corner and he made no ground up on Rossi so there was never going to be a penalty against him.


Commentary suggested it was his fastest lap of the race and that he could get a penalty?

They only questioned that because Rossi got penalised for the same incident earlier in the season when Rossi visible closed on the rider in front, Vinales clearly gained nothing relative to Rossi so there would have been nothing to penalise.

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Lt. Drebin wrote:
Moto 3 accident was sort of Benny Hill worthy,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-LYAg_mBNg


Someone dropped oil on the circuit and they all went clean off. One of the Ajo riders almost took a spinning Leopard to the face. Could have been so much worse.
Lorenzo Dalla Porta did take a bike to the head in a separate crash, but got up and was apparently fine.


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Miller takes the prize for best crash of the weekend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEm-ueVJHwM


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Miller takes the prize for best crash of the weekend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEm-ueVJHwM

Yeah I was watching when it happened, that could have so easily have ended up worse for Miller.

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